Survey of TV22 ownership - Page 3 - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

locknut · 8th Jul 2022, 1:31 pm

Serial number 83/13859,

so I guess mine is a TV22 mk I.

Panrock · 8th Jul 2022, 3:16 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambo1152

The iconic status of the TV22 style was enhanced by its use to represent Television as an art form in the opening sequence of "The South Bank Show".

There's also what looks like a TV12 on "The Footage Detectives", a regular programme on TPTV.

Steve

KeithsTV · 8th Jul 2022, 5:51 pm

TV22 Mk2 serial number 124/09248 and RF chassis A22 31415.

This was bought off a work colleague in 2009. It had been bought by his ex in-laws for the coronation and had apparently been taken out of service around 1970 and stored in dry conditions since then. Took me about 2 weeks to recap it and sort out various other issues but it displayed a picture on first power up.

It even came with the original mains lead and plug plus a piece of wire as the the aerial. Tuned to Holme Moss, the transmitter isn't that far from Bradford.

It ran perfectly during the re-run of the coronation in 2013 and to be honest the picture looked better than picture on a 37" LCD TV!

I haven't powered it up for some time so fingers crossed when I do.

Keith

Andy - G8MNM · 9th Jul 2022, 12:40 pm

Along with the TV12 and TV22 I also have two TV62s (one working, the other pretty derelict with a duff CRT) and a TV32 (under restoration).

Also two TV24s - which of course have wooden cases.

Three pics of Bushes!

TV22 & TV62

Sneaky radios getting in the pic!

TV22 &TV12

Andy

mark pirate · 10th Jul 2022, 3:26 pm

Quote:

Along with the TV12 and TV22 I also have two TV62s

I also have a TV32 that I restored from a terrible state, the rarest of the Bush Bakelite sets, I too have a couple of TV24's, one near mint restored set & a tatty unrestored set that needs a LOPT since I borrowed it to fix a TV22.....

Mark

Andy - G8MNM · 10th Jul 2022, 3:38 pm

Hi Mark,

Much work done (and to be done with the TV32). The TV24s are middling with veneer damage to one cabinet, the other not being so bad.

I have high hopes for the TV32 as the CRT is a rebuild and shows as good on my CRT tester!

Do you have any pics of yours to share with us?

Regards

Andy

Panrock · 12th Jul 2022, 12:53 pm

I'll give this until the weekend and then tot up all the sets. I think I'll also produce a table as suggested by Helder Crespo.

If you have anything you'd like to add in the meantime about your own TV12/22, such as serial numbers, feel free. I'll sort all the posts out at the weekend. TV32 and TV62 owners should also post.

Obviously, this survey will be limited in scope, since it only includes sets that people have posted about here.

From THIS earlier survey, we learned there were about 700 405-line-capable sets still working in 2019. It will be interesting now to see how many are bakelite Bushes!

Steve

bc312 · 12th Jul 2022, 1:54 pm

Hello Steve

I have a TV62 which I purchased in 1965 for the large sum of 10 shillings. I modified it for TV-DX as per an article in Practical Television. My first DX was the 819 line test card from ORTF. Still have the set.

Mike

line sync · 12th Jul 2022, 2:20 pm

I have one TV12B and one TV22.
The TV22 was bought in 1983 after placing a wanted advert in the local paper.
The elderly couple i bought it off had purchased it brand new in 1950 and said they kept it going until it broke down in 1970.
The set has been fully restored and works well.
Ironically i have now owned it longer than they did.

Freya · 12th Jul 2022, 2:49 pm

One TV22, serial 83/1142
One TV12A serial 70?/01121
One TV12B serial 66/00179

radiomarktv · 12th Jul 2022, 3:30 pm

Hello Steve,
I have a TV32 and a TV62, both in fine condition but unrestored. The TV32 was given to me from the original owner who passed away recently.
Mark.

Andy - G8MNM · 12th Jul 2022, 3:46 pm

Steve,

Here are the serial numbers for the TV12 - TV62 range that I have.

TV12B - 66\00862 - RF Deck - Sutton Coldfield - 67\00584

TV22 - 124\14063 - RF Deck A22\47505

TV32 - 120\08203 - RF Deck - A41\03682

TV62 - 216\21848 - RF Deck - A95\06960

TV62 - 216\29347 - RF Deck - A95\14995

Andy

The KB Kid · 13th Jul 2022, 1:35 pm

Hello,

Just came across this post - I realise that it's primarily about TV22s but just wanted to add that I'm also the lucky owner of a TV62 in good working order.

Purchased in 2017 and was kindly renovated by Mr Norman Raeburn (also of UKVRR&R forum) - thanks again Norman - really good picture and was used for a while when my 19" KB (SV30 FM model) was getting repaired at Xmas by Trevor Goodenough - aka Mr. Murphy - thanks also go to Trevor.

I'm a collector not an engineer - I know my limits

Good Wishes to all.

Panrock · 15th Jul 2022, 2:13 pm

Here's the table (is this called a spreadsheet?) as it is so far. Please post in this thread if you want anything further added or changes made to your entry.

I confess I'm not very conversant with Excel. I believe this copy has been protected against editing, to prevent different versions multiplying, but I could be wrong.

One problem: Nobody has admitted yet in these posts to having a TV22A! But we know they're out there. Please tell us here if yours is an 'A'. Thank you.

Steve

Helder Crespo · 15th Jul 2022, 2:31 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panrock

Here's the table (is this called a spreadsheet?) as it is so far. Please post in this thread if you want anything further added or changes made to your entry.

I confess I'm not very conversant with Excel. I believe this copy has been protected against editing, to prevent different versions multiplying, but I could be wrong.

One problem: Nobody has admitted yet in these posts to having a TV22A! But we know they're out there. Please tell us here if yours is an 'A'. Thank you.

Steve

Thanks Steve. I think it looks very good. It's not protected though.
- Helder

Panrock · 15th Jul 2022, 2:35 pm

Thanks Helder. I'll call the final complete version something else distinctive then.

Steve

Andy - G8MNM · 15th Jul 2022, 3:42 pm

Helder,How do you identify a TV22A?

Andy

thermionic · 15th Jul 2022, 3:43 pm

Sorry, didn’t realise we were including TV62’s as well!

I have 3 here Steve, one fully restored & working.

Cheers. SimonT.

Panrock · 15th Jul 2022, 4:23 pm

Thanks. Yes now's the time to declare all those TV32s and TV62s, as well as those TV22As!

Steve

Heatercathodeshort · 15th Jul 2022, 5:24 pm

As I mentioned in post 14 the TV22A differs considerably from the earlier TV22s mainly in a completely different upper deck. The octal valves have gone to be replaced with the Mullard B9A World series. The LOPT is much improved and mounted on the left of the chassis.
A quick glance over the back reveals a very small Laurel and Hardy style bowler hat to replace the earlier box affair.
These pictures were scanned from the 1954 makers service manual.
The Dulwich museum has a good working example. John.

View Poll Results: Which type is your TV22?
TV12	12	22.22%
TV22 Mk I	32	59.26%
TV22 Mk II	24	44.44%
TV22 A	10	18.52%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

8th Jul 2022, 1:31 pm	#41
locknut Pentode Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Retford, Nottinghamshire, UK. Posts: 124	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership Serial number 83/13859, so I guess mine is a TV22 mk I. __________________ Paul

8th Jul 2022, 5:51 pm	#43
KeithsTV Nonode Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 2,534	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership TV22 Mk2 serial number 124/09248 and RF chassis A22 31415. This was bought off a work colleague in 2009. It had been bought by his ex in-laws for the coronation and had apparently been taken out of service around 1970 and stored in dry conditions since then. Took me about 2 weeks to recap it and sort out various other issues but it displayed a picture on first power up. It even came with the original mains lead and plug plus a piece of wire as the the aerial. Tuned to Holme Moss, the transmitter isn't that far from Bradford. It ran perfectly during the re-run of the coronation in 2013 and to be honest the picture looked better than picture on a 37" LCD TV! I haven't powered it up for some time so fingers crossed when I do. Keith

9th Jul 2022, 12:40 pm	#44
Andy - G8MNM Hexode Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Perigord Noir, France Posts: 350	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership Along with the TV12 and TV22 I also have two TV62s (one working, the other pretty derelict with a duff CRT) and a TV32 (under restoration). Also two TV24s - which of course have wooden cases. Three pics of Bushes! TV22 & TV62 Sneaky radios getting in the pic! TV22 &TV12 Andy Attached Thumbnails __________________ Member BVWS https://www.lushanda.com/

10th Jul 2022, 3:38 pm	#46
Andy - G8MNM Hexode Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Perigord Noir, France Posts: 350	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership Hi Mark, Much work done (and to be done with the TV32). The TV24s are middling with veneer damage to one cabinet, the other not being so bad. I have high hopes for the TV32 as the CRT is a rebuild and shows as good on my CRT tester! Do you have any pics of yours to share with us? Regards Andy __________________ Member BVWS https://www.lushanda.com/

12th Jul 2022, 12:53 pm	#47
Panrock Nonode Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worcestershire, UK. Posts: 2,368	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership I'll give this until the weekend and then tot up all the sets. I think I'll also produce a table as suggested by Helder Crespo. If you have anything you'd like to add in the meantime about your own TV12/22, such as serial numbers, feel free. I'll sort all the posts out at the weekend. TV32 and TV62 owners should also post. Obviously, this survey will be limited in scope, since it only includes sets that people have posted about here. From THIS earlier survey, we learned there were about 700 405-line-capable sets still working in 2019. It will be interesting now to see how many are bakelite Bushes! Steve

12th Jul 2022, 1:54 pm	#48
bc312 Pentode Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Longfield, Kent, UK. Posts: 220	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership Hello Steve I have a TV62 which I purchased in 1965 for the large sum of 10 shillings. I modified it for TV-DX as per an article in Practical Television. My first DX was the 819 line test card from ORTF. Still have the set. Mike __________________ Leave me alone - I know what I'm doing. BVWS member, EUG, G-QRP Radio Bygones/Radiophile

12th Jul 2022, 2:20 pm	#49
line sync Heptode Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kinver, Staffordshire, UK. Posts: 574	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership I have one TV12B and one TV22. The TV22 was bought in 1983 after placing a wanted advert in the local paper. The elderly couple i bought it off had purchased it brand new in 1950 and said they kept it going until it broke down in 1970. The set has been fully restored and works well. Ironically i have now owned it longer than they did.

12th Jul 2022, 2:49 pm	#50
Freya Octode Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Falmouth, Cornwall, UK. Posts: 1,931	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership One TV22, serial 83/1142 One TV12A serial 70?/01121 One TV12B serial 66/00179 __________________ Stephen _________"It`s only an old telly" ___

12th Jul 2022, 3:30 pm	#51
radiomarktv Pentode Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Henley on Thames, Oxfordshire, UK. Posts: 198	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership Hello Steve, I have a TV32 and a TV62, both in fine condition but unrestored. The TV32 was given to me from the original owner who passed away recently. Mark.

12th Jul 2022, 3:46 pm	#52
Andy - G8MNM Hexode Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Perigord Noir, France Posts: 350	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership Steve, Here are the serial numbers for the TV12 - TV62 range that I have. TV12B - 66\00862 - RF Deck - Sutton Coldfield - 67\00584 TV22 - 124\14063 - RF Deck A22\47505 TV32 - 120\08203 - RF Deck - A41\03682 TV62 - 216\21848 - RF Deck - A95\06960 TV62 - 216\29347 - RF Deck - A95\14995 Andy __________________ Member BVWS https://www.lushanda.com/

13th Jul 2022, 1:35 pm	#53
The KB Kid Triode Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Dundee, Scotland, UK. Also work on contracts throughout the UK. Posts: 21	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership Hello, Just came across this post - I realise that it's primarily about TV22s but just wanted to add that I'm also the lucky owner of a TV62 in good working order. Purchased in 2017 and was kindly renovated by Mr Norman Raeburn (also of UKVRR&R forum) - thanks again Norman - really good picture and was used for a while when my 19" KB (SV30 FM model) was getting repaired at Xmas by Trevor Goodenough - aka Mr. Murphy - thanks also go to Trevor. I'm a collector not an engineer - I know my limits Good Wishes to all.

15th Jul 2022, 2:35 pm	#56
Panrock Nonode Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worcestershire, UK. Posts: 2,368	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership Thanks Helder. I'll call the final complete version something else distinctive then. Steve

15th Jul 2022, 3:42 pm	#57
Andy - G8MNM Hexode Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Perigord Noir, France Posts: 350	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership Helder,How do you identify a TV22A? Andy __________________ Member BVWS https://www.lushanda.com/

15th Jul 2022, 3:43 pm	#58
thermionic Heptode Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cornwall, UK. Posts: 924	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership Sorry, didn’t realise we were including TV62’s as well! I have 3 here Steve, one fully restored & working. Cheers. SimonT. __________________ The honesty of imperfection..........

15th Jul 2022, 4:23 pm	#59
Panrock Nonode Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worcestershire, UK. Posts: 2,368	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership Thanks. Yes now's the time to declare all those TV32s and TV62s, as well as those TV22As! Steve

15th Jul 2022, 5:24 pm	#60
Heatercathodeshort Dekatron Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Warnham, West Sussex. 10 miles south of DORKING. Posts: 9,105	Re: Survey of TV22 ownership As I mentioned in post 14 the TV22A differs considerably from the earlier TV22s mainly in a completely different upper deck. The octal valves have gone to be replaced with the Mullard B9A World series. The LOPT is much improved and mounted on the left of the chassis. A quick glance over the back reveals a very small Laurel and Hardy style bowler hat to replace the earlier box affair. These pictures were scanned from the 1954 makers service manual. The Dulwich museum has a good working example. John. Attached Thumbnails