At last! A KB “Toaster” radio. - Page 2 - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Tim · 24th Jan 2023, 10:00 pm

Hi PJL. The switch isn’t completely open, there is a few Meg of resistance there, so hopefully it’s just oxidation or soot from arcing.

I have successfully “ bonked” switches by forcing them to switch a heavier resistive load such as a 150 watt incandescent lamp.

Herald1360 · 25th Jan 2023, 5:48 pm

The actual switch on current surge of a 150W incandescent lamp is probably >10× its nominal running current so the cruddy contacts will get a serious kick to clear the crap.

The electrical equivalent of a good whack wi t'ammer

Tim · 6th Feb 2023, 5:42 pm

Hi gang. Had a good go at the “Toaster” on Saturday.
It now plays( although not very well at present) on both wavebands. It’s quieter than I would have expected and rather hard of hearing. LW works over the entire band but MW conks out about half way along. One or more low emission valves I suspect.
As suspected the smoothing cap was very low on one half and totally open on the other. The only replacement I had that would fit in the clip is slightly longer, and is wire ended but works very well. The on-off switch worked after being forced to switch a 100w incandescent bulb. All waxies and Hunts mouldseals replaced and a couple of out of tolerance resistors.

Tim · 6th Feb 2023, 10:08 pm

“ After “ shot of the gubbins.

wireless_john · 7th Feb 2023, 8:52 am

Reading this with interest as I have one in the loft waiting for my attention!

John

Valvepower · 7th Feb 2023, 10:51 am

Hello,

A few years back I found some discrepancies between a Toaster I was working on, and the service sheets. I did a post on the forum a few years back about these discrepancies and the Late Mike Edwards noted it for his records.

Link to the thread on the forum:
https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/....php?p=1326187

I have the late Mike Edwards MW/SW FB15T Toaster, which sits proudly on my Black PYE ‘Black Box’ in the lounge!

One day I’ll get a FB10FM FM Toaster, however, the rarity of which, must rival that of hens’ teeth.

Terry

Tim · 7th Feb 2023, 6:47 pm

It also needed a replacement dial lamp(which moves with the tuning indicator, a nice touch), and an NOS 6X5GT as the original was extremely tired.

stevehertz · 7th Feb 2023, 7:26 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valvepower

Hello,

A few years back I found some discrepancies between a Toaster I was working on, and the service sheets. I did a post on the forum a few years back about these discrepancies and the Late Mike Edwards noted it for his records.

Link to the thread on the forum:
https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/....php?p=1326187

I have the late Mike Edwards MW/SW FB15T Toaster, which sits proudly on my Black PYE ‘Black Box’ in the lounge!

One day I’ll get a FB10FM FM Toaster, however, the rarity of which, must rival that of hens’ teeth.

Terry

I had two, one in cream and the other in pale blue. Long gone.

hotbulb · 23rd Feb 2023, 1:07 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim

It also needed a replacement dial lamp(which moves with the tuning indicator, a nice touch), and an NOS 6X5GT as the original was extremely tired.

Good grief, I just sent a couple of FM ones off as WEEE last week, didn't think they were that desirable!

24th Jan 2023, 10:00 pm	#21
Tim Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 3,310	Re: At last! A KB “Toaster” radio. Hi PJL. The switch isn’t completely open, there is a few Meg of resistance there, so hopefully it’s just oxidation or soot from arcing. I have successfully “ bonked” switches by forcing them to switch a heavier resistive load such as a 150 watt incandescent lamp. __________________ "Nothing is as dangerous as being too modern;one is apt to grow old fashioned quite suddenly."

25th Jan 2023, 5:48 pm	#22
Herald1360 Dekatron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leominster, Herefordshire, UK. Posts: 16,536	Re: At last! A KB “Toaster” radio. The actual switch on current surge of a 150W incandescent lamp is probably >10× its nominal running current so the cruddy contacts will get a serious kick to clear the crap. The electrical equivalent of a good whack wi t'ammer __________________ ....__________ ....\|____\|\|__\|__\_____ .=.\| _---\__\|__\|_---_\|. .........O..Chris....O

6th Feb 2023, 5:42 pm	#23
Tim Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 3,310	Re: At last! A KB “Toaster” radio. Hi gang. Had a good go at the “Toaster” on Saturday. It now plays( although not very well at present) on both wavebands. It’s quieter than I would have expected and rather hard of hearing. LW works over the entire band but MW conks out about half way along. One or more low emission valves I suspect. As suspected the smoothing cap was very low on one half and totally open on the other. The only replacement I had that would fit in the clip is slightly longer, and is wire ended but works very well. The on-off switch worked after being forced to switch a 100w incandescent bulb. All waxies and Hunts mouldseals replaced and a couple of out of tolerance resistors. __________________ "Nothing is as dangerous as being too modern;one is apt to grow old fashioned quite suddenly."

6th Feb 2023, 10:08 pm	#24
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7th Feb 2023, 8:52 am	#25
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7th Feb 2023, 10:51 am	#26
Valvepower Octode Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Rayleigh near Southend-On-Sea, Essex, UK. Posts: 1,883	Re: At last! A KB “Toaster” radio. Hello, A few years back I found some discrepancies between a Toaster I was working on, and the service sheets. I did a post on the forum a few years back about these discrepancies and the Late Mike Edwards noted it for his records. Link to the thread on the forum: https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/....php?p=1326187 I have the late Mike Edwards MW/SW FB15T Toaster, which sits proudly on my Black PYE ‘Black Box’ in the lounge! One day I’ll get a FB10FM FM Toaster, however, the rarity of which, must rival that of hens’ teeth. Terry Last edited by Valvepower; 7th Feb 2023 at 10:59 am.

7th Feb 2023, 6:47 pm	#27
Tim Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 3,310	Re: At last! A KB “Toaster” radio. It also needed a replacement dial lamp(which moves with the tuning indicator, a nice touch), and an NOS 6X5GT as the original was extremely tired. __________________ "Nothing is as dangerous as being too modern;one is apt to grow old fashioned quite suddenly."