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19th May 2006, 11:15 pm | #1 |
Pentode
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Ferguson 606T "Golden Glide" 405 line TV.
Hi,
I have recently embarked on the restoration of my Ferguson 606T, which my parents bought new. With all the moulded (and leaking) caps replaced I have a good picture, but have spotted a few bits that are missing or will need replacing. I wonder if anyone here might be able to help with the missing bits and some information, please? So whats missing? The LOP stage screening cover (may well be the same as the later 800 and 850 sets) and possibly some badge(s) - see below........ With the chassis out of the case, it appears that it may of originally had a badge on the RHS speaker grill, below the speaker - I can see two small holes - spacing 1.5" - through the grille and the cabinet is internally drilled to line up with these small holes. Can anyone confirm that a badge was fitted here and if it was a 'Ferguson' badge, please? On the top LHS front of the top of the case there are three small holes that appear to have plastic pins in them. Was this for another badge? If so, can anyone remember what it was, please? I have now removed the top of the case (to attend to the crazed varnish and slight loss of veneer on the rear edge) and can see that the three holes are not drilled all the way throught the case. What needs replacing? The mains dropper resistor. It is a flat section type with section values of 60 + 42 + 97 + 35 + 25 ohms. Also, can anyone explain why the chassis label refers to the set as being model 606T, while the back is marked as being model 4606 - to which I can find no reference in my manuals. Was it just a mistake when the backs were made? Any info. would be much appreciated. Regards, SWB 18. |
20th May 2006, 8:40 am | #2 |
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Re: Ferguson 606T "Golden Glide" 405 line TV.
Hello ?,
Reading your thread forced me to unearth my FERGUSON 606T. I have attempted to take a reasonable picture of the front and as you can see there are no odd holes around the speaker grills. The badge is in place and is an updated version of the 'signed' version used up to the 500 series. They are a very smart set but did not sell in anything like the quantities of the previous 506T. They are very reliable and give a super picture. Regarding the puzzle of the figure 4 before the model number. Mine also has this and I have come across it on many Ferguson sets in the past. I can only offer a guess I'm afraid. They may have been produced in a Thorn factory other than ENFIELD. Not much help but its all I can offer! Regards John |
11th Jun 2006, 7:40 pm | #3 |
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Re: Ferguson 606T "Golden Glide" 405 line TV.
Hi,
Following on from my recent chassis work on the '606T' I have now tackled the case. The original finish took much effort to remove, but did eventually all come off. The holes on the top turned out to be one hole and two dimples. The hole did contain plastic of some sort which the paint stripper attacked very effectively, compared to the original varnish! The hole was filled prior to re-finishing. I have now re-finished the top of the case, and attach a picture. The finish blends in well with the original on the sides of the case. So far it has only had a light burnish, so the gloss will improve further. Once the top is re-united with the rest of the case, I will burnish and wax the whole case. I'm still on the look out for the correct dropper and screening can. I have been told that the screening can may well be the same as the later Thorn 850 chassis. Regards, Phil. |
12th Jun 2006, 5:08 pm | #4 |
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Re: Ferguson 606T "Golden Glide" 405 line TV.
Hi Phil,
OK, here you go. I've created a rough drawing of it, but it is to scale as it was originated from drawing around the original. So any missing dimensions you should be able to work out. Having looked at my 850 I'm not 100% convinced they are identical, but armed with this I think you can tweak the dimensions a little to suit if required. The dotted lines are folds. I'd make a cardboard one and give it a go! You will need to find something like that clip it has fitted on one end - maybe a car trim dealer could help. Good news about the linearity sleeve, I thought you may have it as there was that clean patch! However, an engineer (loose term!), who I started my TV career with back in the 70's, did like to remove them to get some more width out of struggling sets - even if the linearity was left looking hideous. Most punters were just happy it was a relatively cheap 'repair' to fill the screen again HTH, Graham. |
21st Jul 2006, 10:30 pm | #5 |
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Re: Ferguson 606T "Golden Glide" 405 line TV.
Just to round off this thread, here are some pictures of the set reassembled and working again.
I put on a small radio and tv display as part of a local event recently and it was on for 2 x 5 hour stints in quite warm conditions. This seemed to do the CRT some good as the emission just got better and better. The search continues for a good dropper and an original LOP screen........ Regards, Phil. |
22nd Jul 2006, 11:52 am | #6 |
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Re: Ferguson 606T "Golden Glide" 405 line TV.
Hello,
I think that the four digit model number system was not introduced by Thorn until their first 625 convertible TV chassis was produced - the Thorn 800 series, which was fitted to a variety of ferguson, HMV, Marconiphoe, Ultra and Philco branded sets. The first digit refelcted the brand: 2 - HMV, 3 - Ferguson, 4 - Marconiphone and 6 - Ultra. This later expanded to include 8 - Baird and 5 - DER, etc. There was a "Phase 2" 625 convertible version of the 700 series chassis (e.g. 705T) but this was the last to use the traditional Ferguson model numbering system. It's a complete mystery to me why there is a 4 in front of the 606 on Phil's set! It might be an export set number (405 lines was used in Eire and possibly Hong Kong) or perhaps it was a special version supplied to a retail chain, like J & M Stone (later known as Civic)? That's a very nice restoration Phil! Regards, Dazzlevision |