Barclay valve radio (ex Yugoslavian) - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

FIXITNOW · 23rd Nov 2010, 8:54 am

Barclay valve radio (ex Yugoslavian)
model am table top
found round local boot this weekend sadly no knobs and volume pot shaft snapped ! but it was only £1

any one help with a service sheet thanks

The valve line up is ECH81 (X2), EL84, EZ80, & EM80. There is a range of white push-buttons on the front.

Black curved rectangular wooden case light brown plastic speaker
as here
http://www.richardsradios.co.uk/barclay.html
cheers

Herald1360 · 23rd Nov 2010, 1:33 pm

Interesting valve lineup.... presumably the second ECH81 is used as heptode IF and triode 1st AF. The common cathode must need some decent decoupling, though. I wonder how any AGC is implemented?

kalee20 · 23rd Nov 2010, 2:18 pm

Quite agree! And what is used as detector, AVC-producer, and EM80 indicator control voltage? Perhaps there's a Westector diode or two, or some of this new-fangled germanium stuff, under the chassis - the link has a photo of something looking very much like that.

Steve_P · 23rd Nov 2010, 2:38 pm

There are a few of these knocking around and they work very well. Another brand they come under is 'Majestic'. They do have a diode for detection.

I fixed mine without a manual, mainly because I couldn't find one.

Resistors O/C and Smoothing Can in mine.

Cheers,

Steve P.

MALC SCOTT · 23rd Nov 2010, 3:01 pm

I have the Majestic version. Nice set, performs very well.

telstar · 23rd Nov 2010, 10:01 pm

Hi. I have also a Barclay radio. It was made by Elektronska Industrija in former Yugoslavia on export to U.K. The home model is E.I RR230C. I might have a copy of the RR230 model somewhere.
The cord drive for the tuning capacitor is a bit of a nuiscence to re-string, as it has three loops.
Regards
Mike

telstar · 2nd Jan 2012, 2:43 pm

Hi FIXITNOW. At long last I have managed to find the service data for the RR230 radio made by E.I in the former Yugoslavia. There are 8 photocopies of the circuit diagram, plus a picture of the radio receiver itself. Are you still interested in copies of it? This model, I have been informed, is the equivalent of the Barclay radio, which was exported to the U.K in 1964.
Please let me know by p.message?
Cheers
Mike

david3006 · 3rd Jan 2012, 9:26 pm

Hi All,
Interesting to hear about the Barclay/ Majestic . I have on the bench a Yugoslav 'Maestro' which has a different lineup, ECC85 for the VHF head, ECH 82, EF89, EABC80, EL84, also EZ80 rectifier and EM84 magic eye.
I've replaced the smoothers, but the AF is very cranky when injecting AF into the pickup sockets, and the HT is at 300v instead of 250 (I have the circuit, still in an envelope stuck to the inside of the back panel!). I think the biasing of the EL84 is wrong, thus little current flowing, thus the high HT.
However, only just starting fault finding having fixed the HT supply.. put it originally on the variac and the EZ80 was getting hot, and low HT so I think the smoothers were duff.
This is only the second mains valve set I've had a go at (the first was a Stella/Philips) so wish me luck.

David

telstar · 5th Jan 2012, 8:01 pm

Hi. Good to know that there are other Yugoslavian radios turn up occasionally.
The Barclay set seems to turn up more frequently than before. It is a nice variation on the "piano key" radios.
It's a wonder that someone hasn't written a book about the variation of valve radios that employ push button switching!
This is my second Barclay radio to repair (I have not touched the first one - with the drive cord rewind). I think that one also had an o/c h.t smoother coil (section of the o/p transformer primary winding), from what I remember.
Cheers
Mike

23rd Nov 2010, 8:54 am	#1
FIXITNOW Octode Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ely, Cambridgeshire, UK. Posts: 1,976	Barclay valve radio (ex Yugoslavian) Barclay valve radio (ex Yugoslavian) model am table top found round local boot this weekend sadly no knobs and volume pot shaft snapped ! but it was only £1 any one help with a service sheet thanks The valve line up is ECH81 (X2), EL84, EZ80, & EM80. There is a range of white push-buttons on the front. Black curved rectangular wooden case light brown plastic speaker as here http://www.richardsradios.co.uk/barclay.html cheers

23rd Nov 2010, 1:33 pm	#2
Herald1360 Dekatron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leominster, Herefordshire, UK. Posts: 16,535	Re: Barclay valve radio (ex Yugoslavian) Interesting valve lineup.... presumably the second ECH81 is used as heptode IF and triode 1st AF. The common cathode must need some decent decoupling, though. I wonder how any AGC is implemented? __________________ ....__________ ....\|____\|\|__\|__\_____ .=.\| _---\__\|__\|_---_\|. .........O..Chris....O

23rd Nov 2010, 2:18 pm	#3
kalee20 Dekatron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lynton, N. Devon, UK. Posts: 7,081	Re: Barclay valve radio (ex Yugoslavian) Quite agree! And what is used as detector, AVC-producer, and EM80 indicator control voltage? Perhaps there's a Westector diode or two, or some of this new-fangled germanium stuff, under the chassis - the link has a photo of something looking very much like that.

23rd Nov 2010, 2:38 pm	#4
Steve_P Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bolton, Greater Manchester, UK. Posts: 6,644	Re: Barclay valve radio (ex Yugoslavian) There are a few of these knocking around and they work very well. Another brand they come under is 'Majestic'. They do have a diode for detection. I fixed mine without a manual, mainly because I couldn't find one. Resistors O/C and Smoothing Can in mine. Cheers, Steve P. __________________ If we've always had it, why is the Car Boot open? You're not sneaking another Old TV in are you...?

23rd Nov 2010, 3:01 pm	#5
MALC SCOTT Octode Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Willington, County Durham, UK. Posts: 1,499	Re: Barclay valve radio (ex Yugoslavian) I have the Majestic version. Nice set, performs very well. __________________ Malc Scott

23rd Nov 2010, 10:01 pm	#6
telstar Octode Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 1,592	Re: Barclay valve radio (ex Yugoslavian) Hi. I have also a Barclay radio. It was made by Elektronska Industrija in former Yugoslavia on export to U.K. The home model is E.I RR230C. I might have a copy of the RR230 model somewhere. The cord drive for the tuning capacitor is a bit of a nuiscence to re-string, as it has three loops. Regards Mike

2nd Jan 2012, 2:43 pm	#7
telstar Octode Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 1,592	Re: Barclay valve radio (ex Yugoslavian) Hi FIXITNOW. At long last I have managed to find the service data for the RR230 radio made by E.I in the former Yugoslavia. There are 8 photocopies of the circuit diagram, plus a picture of the radio receiver itself. Are you still interested in copies of it? This model, I have been informed, is the equivalent of the Barclay radio, which was exported to the U.K in 1964. Please let me know by p.message? Cheers Mike

3rd Jan 2012, 9:26 pm	#8
david3006 Tetrode Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Holt, Norfolk, UK. Posts: 62	Re: Barclay valve radio (ex Yugoslavian) Hi All, Interesting to hear about the Barclay/ Majestic . I have on the bench a Yugoslav 'Maestro' which has a different lineup, ECC85 for the VHF head, ECH 82, EF89, EABC80, EL84, also EZ80 rectifier and EM84 magic eye. I've replaced the smoothers, but the AF is very cranky when injecting AF into the pickup sockets, and the HT is at 300v instead of 250 (I have the circuit, still in an envelope stuck to the inside of the back panel!). I think the biasing of the EL84 is wrong, thus little current flowing, thus the high HT. However, only just starting fault finding having fixed the HT supply.. put it originally on the variac and the EZ80 was getting hot, and low HT so I think the smoothers were duff. This is only the second mains valve set I've had a go at (the first was a Stella/Philips) so wish me luck. David

5th Jan 2012, 8:01 pm	#9
telstar Octode Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 1,592	Re: Barclay valve radio (ex Yugoslavian) Hi. Good to know that there are other Yugoslavian radios turn up occasionally. The Barclay set seems to turn up more frequently than before. It is a nice variation on the "piano key" radios. It's a wonder that someone hasn't written a book about the variation of valve radios that employ push button switching! This is my second Barclay radio to repair (I have not touched the first one - with the drive cord rewind). I think that one also had an o/c h.t smoother coil (section of the o/p transformer primary winding), from what I remember. Cheers Mike