HMV900 Cabinet - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

RY57Nigel · 5th May 2014, 12:55 pm

Hello all this is my first time on the forum so first of all I will introduce myself to all that do not know me.

My name is Nigel Taylor and been a member of the BVWS on and off for 30 years

As a restorer collector I must have had go at restoring most of the classic radios and jukeboxes at least once .

As the son of a TV engineer ( or so it say's on my birth cert ) I but I never bothered with TV much I think it was because as a young boy in the early 60's I was surrounded by them.

But as a collector of everything 1930's a TV of that era was always be on my list of wants.

These last few years I have been privileged to have become good friends with
what must be one of the countries most prolific TV collectors.

Having seen my restoring results on a couple of radios I got from him he agreed to sell me 2 pre war TV,s both in restoration work in progress.
I. Murphy A58V
2. HMV900
I would like to publicly thank him for making my dream come true.

Now we come on to what I have found today on the HMV900
I am only sympathetically restoring this due to its rarity .

Under the hinge to the top lid was a stamped number which is either 91 or 97
Under the mirror was a 91 so I think the 1 is not upright.
One way or the other it may be another way to date them,
I would be interested to see if the other 900 owners have a number on theirs.

dave walsh · 5th May 2014, 1:42 pm

Hi Nigel. I remebered a recent thread and put "HMV900 list" into the top search box which brought up [among other interesting info] Marky Marks thread from 30th December 2013 re his own set and 1936 dates.

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...d.php?t=102362

Hope this helps. I've got a mirror lid set but it's post war so not really in your league

.
Dave

BVWS

dave walsh · 5th May 2014, 3:01 pm

Thanks to Mod for adding the link!
Dave

peter_scott · 5th May 2014, 8:57 pm

Hi Nigel,

Welcome to the forum. As Dave has pointed out there are a few other early EMI televisions around. I would be happy to add your set's data to the list if you could let me have the data.

The TRF assembly normally has a stamped serial number near to the video and sync output terminals and the timebase chassis somewhere near the bottom.

Peter

Code:

 TRF | T/B|Owner           |Model|Data Plate|CRT Metalwork  |V8 socket          |Purchase date
----+----+----------------+-----+----------+---------------+-------------------+---------------
   ?|   ?|David Looser    | 901 |No serial |Long metalwork |exposed V8 socket  |
   ?| 122|Moses Znaimer   | 702 |H 1007    |Long metalwork |exposed V8 socket  |< 26th Nov 1936
    |    |                | 702 |H 1029    |Long metalwork |exposed V8 socket  |
   ?|0656|                | 702 |H 1067    |Long metalwork |exposed V8 socket  |
   ?| 247|Ian Blackbourn  | 900 |4 1269    |N/A            |exposed V8 socket  |
   ?|   ?|David Boynes    | 901 |H 7081    |Long metalwork |exposed V8 socket  |
0520|0441|Mikeymushradio  | 900 |H 6080    |N/A            |V8 socket + valve  |
0870|0821|Steve McVoy     | 901 |H 7099    |Short metalwork|V8 socket + valve  |sound 0786
   ?|0922|David Boynes    | 702 |No serial |Short metalwork|exposed V8 socket  |
1012|1099|Rob (Draenog)   | 900 |Y 475     |N/A            |under side blanking|
   ?|1437|Jeffrey Borinsky| 702 |H 1132    |Short metalwork|top mount blanking |
2635|2083|Steve McVoy     | 702 |H 1174    |Short metalwork|under side blanking|sound 2624
   ?|2224|Bonhams         | 703 |??        |Short metalwork|under side blanking|< May 1937
3378|2772|Brianc          | 703 |H/1  99   |Short metalwork|under side blanking|< 15th May 1937
4746|0980|Helmut Streiff  | 702 |Y 224     |Short metalwork|top mount blanking |
   ?|2952|eBay            | 702 |Y 241     |Short metalwork|under side blanking|
   ?|3839|Ian McLaughlin  | 702 |H/1  4077 |Short metalwork|under side blanking|
5061|5001|Peter Scott     | 901 |H/1  6146 |Short metalwork|under side blanking|
   ?|   ?|KeithW          | 705 |H/1  8032 |N/A            |?                  |
   ?|   ?|Bonhams         | 900 |H/1 10108 |N/A            |?                  |
3310|3294|Nat.Museum Scotl| 900 |H/1 10250 |N/A            |under side blanking|
3306|   ?|Steve McVoy     | 900 |H/1 10279 |N/A            |under side blanking|

HamishBoxer · 5th May 2014, 9:05 pm

Welcome Nigel,and that 900 cabinet looks excellent.

My mirror lid is post war (Ekco) 1948.

ianm · 5th May 2014, 9:52 pm

Has anyone noticed the small, hinged inspection door in the right-hand side panel? It's visible in the third picture. I wonder if that's a later addition.

Nigel, welcome to the forum. That's a lovely set you've got there. Looking forward to hearing more about it in due course.

RY57Nigel · 5th May 2014, 10:15 pm

Hello Peter good to speak to you at last, I was aware of items you have written on the 900.
I have not got the chassis here at the moment as I want to complete the cabinet first,
however I will get the data for you first chance I get.
In the mean time the serial no. on the cabinet is 6149

Hello Ian glad you noticed the little hinged door I think its been added but very professionally, and a long while ago can't help wondering if its a HMV mod.

Nigel

RY57Nigel · 20th May 2014, 8:43 pm

Hello all here are pics of my HMV 900 now resprayed this is looks tonight with the last coat straight out of the spray gun. Hopefully the colour meets everyone's approval. The pressure is really on with this one even though I have been restoring cabinets for 30 years .I am conscious not to
do any more to it than I have to .

line sync · 21st May 2014, 9:06 pm

Looks very good Nigel.
Welcome to the forum.

Robin

mark pirate · 21st May 2014, 9:15 pm

It does look very nice, I hope you will share the restoration of the electronics with us

A pre-war set is every TV collectors wish, you are extremely lucky to own two
such nice sets.

Mark

Panrock · 21st May 2014, 9:48 pm

Looks a good job Nigel.

What type of lacquers have you used? Have you included a toner? It's hard to see the actual finish from the photos, which are a little dark.

Steve

RY57Nigel · 21st May 2014, 10:47 pm

Hello Steve good to hear from you.
There are only 2 people I look up to for cabinet work that is you and Brian Woodward.

It must be 30 years now since Clive Mason and I restored a few sets for you under your scoring system. We had a lot to live up to to you Ha ha.

But it taught me a lot and so did Brian. But taking something from both of you and listening to comments from collectors I decided that unlike yourself when you restore someones prized heirloom, I like to try and put a 80 year patina back on again after I get the desired colour. I do use a toner .

I will get some better pics to you. I have made the decision not to remove all the dings
and try and leave it original.

Speak soon
Nigel

Hi Robin thanks for that give us a ring

RY57Nigel · 23rd May 2014, 6:49 pm

Hello Peter here are the chassis no.s of my HMV900

Vision chassis: 23700K
Radio chassis: 24400B
Power chassis: 24500C
Speaker frame: 21970V

marconi_pete · 23rd May 2014, 9:38 pm

Hi nigel,

I must say you've done a wonderful job to that cabinet. The inspection door does look to be a later addition. Certainly have not come across an example with this before.

RY57Nigel · 25th May 2014, 10:20 pm

Thanks Peter that means a lot I will be posting some more pics tomorrow
I have had to re felt everywhere including the top rim under the lid it was all moth eaten and under the top boards which is all back together now. Also
put the speaker back in. I could have removed the little door but I decided it was part of its history so be it.

Nigel

peter_scott · 26th May 2014, 9:41 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RY57Nigel

Hello Peter here are the chassis no.s of my HMV900:

Hi Nigel,

These are the part numbers and are applied in ink. They don't give any indication of age. The chassis numbers are stamped into the metalwork and appear to be sequential through the production span. They have four digits. Please see the example below.

Peter

RY57Nigel · 26th May 2014, 1:01 pm

OK Peter I will get on that I only have the power supply here at the moment.
In the mean time here are pics of finished cabinet next stop rebuilding it.

RY57Nigel · 26th May 2014, 1:03 pm

And more

RY57Nigel · 26th May 2014, 2:40 pm

Hello Peter the stamped number on the vision chassis is 0974 also the baird valve base is wired but riveted with the same rivets as the other bases .Radio to follow

peter_scott · 26th May 2014, 3:37 pm

Hi Nigel,

Your cabinet is looking very good. The little access door is an interesting mystery.

Thanks for your timebase chassis number. I've added your set to the list. Please tell me if your V8 socket is exposed or covered by a blanking plate. I would also like to add your TRF and sound chassis numbers if you can find them.

Regards,

Peter

Code:

 TRF | T/B|Owner           |Model|Data Plate|CRT Metalwork  |V8 socket          |Purchase date
----+----+----------------+-----+----------+---------------+-------------------+---------------
   ?|   ?|David Looser    | 901 |No serial |Long metalwork |exposed V8 socket  |
   ?| 122|Moses Znaimer   | 702 |H 1007    |Long metalwork |exposed V8 socket  |< 26th Nov 1936
    |    |                | 702 |H 1029    |Long metalwork |exposed V8 socket  |
   ?|0656|                | 702 |H 1067    |Long metalwork |exposed V8 socket  |
   ?| 247|Ian Blackbourn  | 900 |4 1269    |N/A            |exposed V8 socket  |
   ?|   ?|David Boynes    | 901 |H 7081    |Long metalwork |exposed V8 socket  |
0520|0441|Mikeymushradio  | 900 |H 6080    |N/A            |V8 socket + valve  |
0870|0821|Steve McVoy     | 901 |H 7099    |Short metalwork|V8 socket + valve  |sound 0786
   ?|0922|David Boynes    | 702 |No serial |Short metalwork|exposed V8 socket  |sound 1162
   ?|0974|RY57Nigel       | 900 |H 6149    |N/A            |V8 socket          |
1012|1099|Rob (Draenog)   | 900 |Y 475     |N/A            |under side blanking|
   ?|1437|Jeffrey Borinsky| 702 |H 1132    |Short metalwork|top mount blanking |
2635|2083|Steve McVoy     | 702 |H 1174    |Short metalwork|under side blanking|sound 2624
   ?|2224|Bonhams         | 703 |??        |Short metalwork|under side blanking|< May 1937
3378|2772|Brianc          | 703 |H/1  99   |Short metalwork|under side blanking|< 15th May 1937
4746|0980|Helmut Streiff  | 702 |Y 224     |Short metalwork|top mount blanking |
   ?|2952|eBay            | 702 |Y 241     |Short metalwork|under side blanking|
   ?|3839|Ian McLaughlin  | 702 |H/1  4077 |Short metalwork|under side blanking|
5061|5001|Peter Scott     | 901 |H/1  6146 |Short metalwork|under side blanking|
   ?|   ?|KeithW          | 705 |H/1  8032 |N/A            |?                  |
   ?|   ?|Bonhams         | 900 |H/1 10108 |N/A            |?                  |
3310|3294|Nat.Museum Scotl| 900 |H/1 10250 |N/A            |under side blanking|
3306|   ?|Steve McVoy     | 900 |H/1 10279 |N/A            |under side blanking|

5th May 2014, 12:55 pm	#1
RY57Nigel Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 18	HMV900 Cabinet Hello all this is my first time on the forum so first of all I will introduce myself to all that do not know me. My name is Nigel Taylor and been a member of the BVWS on and off for 30 years As a restorer collector I must have had go at restoring most of the classic radios and jukeboxes at least once . As the son of a TV engineer ( or so it say's on my birth cert ) I but I never bothered with TV much I think it was because as a young boy in the early 60's I was surrounded by them. But as a collector of everything 1930's a TV of that era was always be on my list of wants. These last few years I have been privileged to have become good friends with what must be one of the countries most prolific TV collectors. Having seen my restoring results on a couple of radios I got from him he agreed to sell me 2 pre war TV,s both in restoration work in progress. I. Murphy A58V 2. HMV900 I would like to publicly thank him for making my dream come true. Now we come on to what I have found today on the HMV900 I am only sympathetically restoring this due to its rarity . Under the hinge to the top lid was a stamped number which is either 91 or 97 Under the mirror was a 91 so I think the 1 is not upright. One way or the other it may be another way to date them, I would be interested to see if the other 900 owners have a number on theirs. Attached Thumbnails

5th May 2014, 1:42 pm	#2
dave walsh Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ramsbottom (Nr Bury) Lancs or Bexhill (Nr Hastings) Sussex. Posts: 5,817	Re: HMV900 Cabinet Hi Nigel. I remebered a recent thread and put "HMV900 list" into the top search box which brought up [among other interesting info] Marky Marks thread from 30th December 2013 re his own set and 1936 dates. https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...d.php?t=102362 Hope this helps. I've got a mirror lid set but it's post war so not really in your league. Dave BVWS

5th May 2014, 3:01 pm	#3
dave walsh Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ramsbottom (Nr Bury) Lancs or Bexhill (Nr Hastings) Sussex. Posts: 5,817	Re: HMV900 Cabinet Thanks to Mod for adding the link! Dave

5th May 2014, 9:05 pm	#5
HamishBoxer Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: W.Butterwick, near Doncaster UK. Posts: 8,935	Re: HMV900 Cabinet Welcome Nigel,and that 900 cabinet looks excellent. My mirror lid is post war (Ekco) 1948. __________________ G8JET BVWS Archivist and Member V.M.A.R.S

5th May 2014, 9:52 pm	#6
ianm Hexode Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, UK. Posts: 341	Re: HMV900 Cabinet Has anyone noticed the small, hinged inspection door in the right-hand side panel? It's visible in the third picture. I wonder if that's a later addition. Nigel, welcome to the forum. That's a lovely set you've got there. Looking forward to hearing more about it in due course. __________________ Regards Ian McLaughlin, BVWS member

5th May 2014, 10:15 pm	#7
RY57Nigel Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 18	Re: HMV900 Cabinet Hello Peter good to speak to you at last, I was aware of items you have written on the 900. I have not got the chassis here at the moment as I want to complete the cabinet first, however I will get the data for you first chance I get. In the mean time the serial no. on the cabinet is 6149 Hello Ian glad you noticed the little hinged door I think its been added but very professionally, and a long while ago can't help wondering if its a HMV mod. Nigel

20th May 2014, 8:43 pm	#8
RY57Nigel Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 18	Re: HMV900 Cabinet Hello all here are pics of my HMV 900 now resprayed this is looks tonight with the last coat straight out of the spray gun. Hopefully the colour meets everyone's approval. The pressure is really on with this one even though I have been restoring cabinets for 30 years .I am conscious not to do any more to it than I have to . Attached Thumbnails

21st May 2014, 9:06 pm	#9
line sync Heptode Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kinver, Staffordshire, UK. Posts: 634	Re: HMV900 Cabinet Looks very good Nigel. Welcome to the forum. Robin

21st May 2014, 9:15 pm	#10
mark pirate Dekatron Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Worthing, West Sussex, UK Posts: 5,185	Re: HMV900 Cabinet It does look very nice, I hope you will share the restoration of the electronics with us A pre-war set is every TV collectors wish, you are extremely lucky to own two such nice sets. Mark

21st May 2014, 9:48 pm	#11
Panrock Nonode Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worcestershire, UK. Posts: 2,534	Re: HMV900 Cabinet Looks a good job Nigel. What type of lacquers have you used? Have you included a toner? It's hard to see the actual finish from the photos, which are a little dark. Steve __________________ https://www.radiocraft.co.uk

21st May 2014, 10:47 pm	#12
RY57Nigel Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 18	Re: HMV900 Cabinet Hello Steve good to hear from you. There are only 2 people I look up to for cabinet work that is you and Brian Woodward. It must be 30 years now since Clive Mason and I restored a few sets for you under your scoring system. We had a lot to live up to to you Ha ha. But it taught me a lot and so did Brian. But taking something from both of you and listening to comments from collectors I decided that unlike yourself when you restore someones prized heirloom, I like to try and put a 80 year patina back on again after I get the desired colour. I do use a toner . I will get some better pics to you. I have made the decision not to remove all the dings and try and leave it original. Speak soon Nigel Hi Robin thanks for that give us a ring

23rd May 2014, 6:49 pm	#13
RY57Nigel Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 18	Re: HMV900 Cabinet Hello Peter here are the chassis no.s of my HMV900 Vision chassis: 23700K Radio chassis: 24400B Power chassis: 24500C Speaker frame: 21970V

23rd May 2014, 9:38 pm	#14
marconi_pete Hexode Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: London, UK. Posts: 347	Re: HMV900 Cabinet Hi nigel, I must say you've done a wonderful job to that cabinet. The inspection door does look to be a later addition. Certainly have not come across an example with this before.

25th May 2014, 10:20 pm	#15
RY57Nigel Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 18	Re: HMV900 Cabinet Thanks Peter that means a lot I will be posting some more pics tomorrow I have had to re felt everywhere including the top rim under the lid it was all moth eaten and under the top boards which is all back together now. Also put the speaker back in. I could have removed the little door but I decided it was part of its history so be it. Nigel

26th May 2014, 1:01 pm	#17
RY57Nigel Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 18	Re: HMV900 Cabinet OK Peter I will get on that I only have the power supply here at the moment. In the mean time here are pics of finished cabinet next stop rebuilding it. Attached Thumbnails

26th May 2014, 1:03 pm	#18
RY57Nigel Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 18	Re: HMV900 Cabinet And more Attached Thumbnails

26th May 2014, 2:40 pm	#19
RY57Nigel Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 18	Re: HMV900 Cabinet Hello Peter the stamped number on the vision chassis is 0974 also the baird valve base is wired but riveted with the same rivets as the other bases .Radio to follow