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Vintage Audio (record players, hi-fi etc) Amplifiers, speakers, gramophones and other audio equipment. |
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Tetrode
Join Date: Feb 2020
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Looking through a pile of 78’s I discovered these.
The limited info I could find online would suggest the labels were used pre 1907 yet the date on one looks to be 1927. Does anyone know more? Thanks, Bill |
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Dekatron
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Never seen one, I suspect they were later superceded by acetates for advance copies. Presumably these are shellac.
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Dekatron
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The date looks like 1922, so pre electrical recording. Vintage acoustically recorded advance promotion records.
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Dekatron
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Also, I note that the covers are advertising Bandmaster gramophones. If these were new enough to be electrical recordings I believe that part of the embossed number (or symbol) in the run-out groove area would indicate which make of electrical recording apparatus was used for the recording.
Last edited by Techman; 16th Nov 2022 at 11:19 pm. Reason: Added symbol. |
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Octode
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The Gramophone Company became HMV in 1912
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Dekatron
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The 22 could be a badly written 11, so 1911.
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Dekatron
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My guess would be that they felt no need to update the labels on these pre-release discs to use the HMV name. Albert Coates became the LSO's chief conductor in 1919, and a Google Groups user has uploaded a recording of him conducting the orchestra (well, a part of it anyway...) in Till Eugenspiegel, dating the recording session as November 4th, 1921:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.musi...MRZYaIUJ?pli=1 Paul |
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Tetrode
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Nice bit of detective work Paul
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Octode
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YT just offered me a Gramophone pre-release disc of this style, with Soprano Adelaide Saraceni and baritone Apollo Granforte in a recording made on 20th June 1930
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