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13th Oct 2022, 10:41 pm | #1 |
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Elizabethan Essex
Hi gents,
I have an Elizabethan Essex tape machine from around 1960, and a schematic would be useful to save me reverse engineering it. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Ian |
13th Oct 2022, 11:18 pm | #2 |
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Re: Elizabethan Essex
Does it have a model number, there are lots of Elizabethan circuits available from the link at the top of the page but they are referenced mainly by model number.
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14th Oct 2022, 12:09 am | #3 |
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Re: Elizabethan Essex
Both the Essex (£65) and the Escort (£45) were released in 1959. The Essex could
be used with a moving coil mic. I don't know of a schematic but found some info on Elizabethan Essex on a website that you can easily find - it's not available "up top". Last edited by Restoration73; 14th Oct 2022 at 12:15 am. |
14th Oct 2022, 12:33 am | #4 |
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Re: Elizabethan Essex
The instruction manual of my late uncle's circa 1960 Elizabethan tape recorder included a circuit diagram. I don't know if this was their general practice. It was a 2-track model with the 3-speed Collaro studio deck.
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14th Oct 2022, 11:32 am | #5 |
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Re: Elizabethan Essex
There is a partial schematic at Post 5 of this linked Thread, but quality is poor and component values are not shown -
https://www.google.com/url?client=in...22zCtltLszfh26 There are quite a few Elizabethan schematics in my Hellyer's "Tape Recording Servicing Manual" book including the Escort but alas not the Essex. David |
14th Oct 2022, 12:23 pm | #6 |
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Re: Elizabethan Essex
Thanks guys, appreciate your responses. I bought this as a lad in the 1970s for a few pence at a jumble sale, and have not had it running for many years. The ‘Essex’ replaced the ‘de-Luxe’ according to Barry Jones’s excellent book History of the British Tape Recorder. Until I re-read the part on Elizabethan I hadn’t known what model it was as there’s no mention on the recorder itself. Info seems scarce on the net, and I guess the machine is scarce too. It uses a 6BR7 instead of the more usual EF86 as first stage of its amplifier. I’ll post a picture or two once I’ve rescued it from the garage!
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14th Oct 2022, 9:18 pm | #7 |
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Re: Elizabethan Essex
I meant 'Guide to British Tape Recorders' of course.
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14th Oct 2022, 11:36 pm | #8 |
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Re: Elizabethan Essex
Attached some photos. Interesting to note the differences from the 2010 post.
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15th Oct 2022, 12:40 am | #9 |
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Where on the unit is it identified as "Essex" ?
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15th Oct 2022, 11:40 am | #10 |
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Re: Elizabethan Essex
See post 6, I suppose.
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15th Oct 2022, 12:23 pm | #11 |
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15th Oct 2022, 2:02 pm | #12 |
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15th Oct 2022, 4:00 pm | #13 |
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Re: Elizabethan Essex
A 6BR7 does suggest an above average recorder.
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15th Oct 2022, 9:49 pm | #14 |
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Re: Elizabethan Essex
Hi Paul, it certainly has some pretence of 'quality', although compared with others it lacks, for instance, any switched compensation for the three different speeds. Within a short space of time other recorders were showing these up a bit. I've a collection of Truvox decks, the oldest of which is only a couple of years newer and will produce much better results at 7.5ips than this one. However, having owned this for nearly 50 years I'll get it running again and measure its performance just for the hell of it. It's meant to be fairly good at 15ips...
Have attached a photo from Barry Jones's book, hope he doesn't mind! By the way, I don't suppose anyone has any original-type knobs? Long shot I guess! Last edited by Ian 315; 15th Oct 2022 at 9:51 pm. Reason: Addition |
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17th Oct 2022, 10:17 am | #17 |
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That is a good idea.
I have sent message via email to the original poster to try and get a better copy emailed, he has not posted on this Forum for over 4 years so not sure if still active. David |
31st Dec 2022, 4:28 pm | #18 |
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Re: Elizabethan Essex
Hi, does anyone have an exploded view of the type AC.53 motor as fitted to the Transcriptor deck? I've found one which shows the speed change mechanism, but I don't seem to be able to remove the lower motor shaft bearing - which I was expecting to be able to do having removed the two through-bolts.
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31st Dec 2022, 5:07 pm | #19 |
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31st Dec 2022, 5:29 pm | #20 |
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I had no problem removing the lower motor shaft bearing on my Baird AC 53 motor, I think it just easily pulled off once the bolts were removed.
See photo attachment # 3 at Post 25. https://www.google.com/url?client=in...hKmZ2s7nFn0UL1 David |