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Old 21st Jan 2023, 8:45 am   #1
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Default Mystery Cossor valve

Does anyone have any data on this Cossor indirectly heated triode type TMC15B. B5 base.
I have a few of them. Some have the Cossor brand on top, others don't.

I've found that it's equivalent to a CV3730 but don't have any data on that either. Cold DC resistance of the heater is 17 Ohms.
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Old 21st Jan 2023, 9:51 am   #2
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Default Re: Mystery Cossor valve

I wonder if TMC is for Telephone Manufacturing Company and is part of an amplifier for a telephone repeater. It does look like a sturdy valve.
TMC15B being an internal part number.
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Old 21st Jan 2023, 11:00 pm   #3
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History of TMC https://www.britishtelephones.com/histtr.htm

According to this page (http://www.pyemuseum.org/divisions/c...ucts/radar.php) TMC was involved in the production of radar equipment in the war.

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Later, EKCO, Cossor, TMC, TGC and Dynatron took over the volume production of the radar equipment and Pye concentrated on the land warfare sets for the Army
This would explain why the valve has a military CV number, and the fact it is made by Cossor.
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Old 22nd Jan 2023, 8:46 am   #4
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My experience is that the transistors (at least) used in P.O. telephone equipment had CV numbers too.
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Old 23rd Jan 2023, 2:34 pm   #5
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I have some similar valves that came in a large box of valves I aquired some years back, one lot are pentodes, 4V filament B7 base, a few are marked Cossor on the top the TMC code is TCM18,
The other lot are triodes 12.5V filament B7 base grid to the top cap and mesh anode, I think they are close equivalent to the HL13C
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Many thanks for all the answers gentlemen. I took a punt and tried one of the valves in a home brew amplifier with 4 volts on the filament. No response. I gambled and tried upping the filament voltage to 15 volts. The heater glowed nicely and the valve worked.
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Old 24th Jan 2023, 1:15 pm   #7
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My experience is that the transistors (at least) used in P.O. telephone equipment had CV numbers too.
Yes, I have some CV358s (EF37A) that originated from the GPO.
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Old 24th Jan 2023, 3:38 pm   #8
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Hello.

The electrode structure of the TMC15B is very similar to the Cossor 41-MTA triode ( http://www.r-type.org/exhib/abd0013.htm ) but with a higher voltage heater.

As to retailers valves, the one with a top cap appears to be a GPO (General Post Office) VT100B valve ( https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_vt100b.html ) which does appear to be equivalent to a HL13C.

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There seem to be 4 heater wires in the TMC15B or have I got that wrong?
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Old 24th Jan 2023, 11:14 pm   #10
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There seem to be 4 heater wires in the TMC15B or have I got that wrong?
Built in redundancy maybe?

If one fails the other one switches in so it keeps working?

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