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I mean seriously, there needs to be more control of all these stupid, rip-off audiophool products. Understandably, you can't sell medicinal products without some sort of licence, and clairvoyants have to state in their adverts that their services are for fun only. WRT hifi products it's not that easy since their are cutting edge widget products on the market that demonstrably do 'work' to a greater or lesser degree, so where do you draw the line between those and the blatant audiophool (stock resistors in a black sheath) ones? And yet another part of me says that if people are stupid enough to believe the ridiculous claims and boasts made for these products, then they deserve to get bitten. But then I think, some sewer rat is making money out of this!
No, this audiophool DIY components market is nothing but a serious rip-off and some kind of legislation needs to be brought in. Maybe the companies selling them should have to apply to have them tested. But then that would need a government department set up to perform the tests plus all the paperwork etc. It would all be too expensive and laden with red tape. No, as I come to the end of this post I've naturally come to my conclusion; let those daft enough to buy such tripe enjoy that tripe (and hope that the manufacturer catches a (bad) cold making them).
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I do wonder if we are completely misreading the subject.
We are assuming that purchasers are being misled but for a minute consider the possibility that they are not "phools". What you may be observing was never intended to be science, more science fiction and a type of art form. People do not buy art for its function but for its meaning, what it says to them, and the desire to own something rare and exclusive and to feel important. OK, like art collecting, it helps if you have more money than you can ever possibly spend and can afford to be frivolous. |
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^^^^ They look like handbrake cables off a old Ford Fiesta .
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I've met some of these audiophools, (the ones that believe the real bovine scat, and are prepared to pay, say £70 for a fuse with gold plate end caps), the question begs..... ......How do they make their money? I will have to ask next time I'm approached to rewire an amp with silk insulated platinum wire! (Yes...that really happened!) Andy. |
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I did an electronics degree about that time at Southampton, and there was not a single woman in an intake of 300. The first woman in that course was in 1980 (I was a lab supervisor then), and she went on to get the highest percentage overall and won the Zeppler Prize. Yup - back to 70's sanity and keep the little woman in her place. |
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The late Dr. J.W.Mellor was a famous chemist and "Father" of chemistry in the ceramics industry. His monumental work covering the chemistry of the elements took him over 30 years to complete shortly before his death.
And yet he found time to write one book entitled "Uncle Joe's Nonsense". One quote in his preface by H.Walpole is "A little nonsense now and then Is relished by the wisest men" I think this is why we are mostly enjoying this thread, but with almost 300 messages, I really think it should be closed soon. It is taking me at least 30 mins to get thro' each day's threads. Time I can little afford. The Lunacy exemplified by all the recent links is frankly beyond me. If somebody seriously tried to convince me of some of this stuff, I know I would have difficulty keeping my temper. I would see it as a direct insult to my intelligence, not something to be undertaken lightly! Les. |
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There was one woman in my tutor group, Southampton Uni Electronics, intake of 1977 - a charming lady from Venezuela, if memory serves - but what a novelty it was thought then! We have moved on...
To be fair, lots of advertising from that era carries assumptions which are uncomfortable now - and that ad was American. On this showing, I don't suppose MadMen is far from the truth! |
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At one recent weekend get-together we had a couple of hi-fi traders (they weren't selling anything there), a builder, a health service consultant (high-level management, not medical), a property maintenance chap, a construction project manager, a defence industry engineer, several IT specialists of one sort or another, a retired mechanical engineer (metalworking), a very senior chap from the London fashion industry (he's both a designer and also a very proficient tailor) and a chap who refurbishes machine tools. The retired owner of a hardware shop also stopped by. We'd hoped for a university economics professor but he had to cry off poorly at the last minute. Cheers, GJ
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With all due respect Les, reading the thread is not obligatory and the [actual] fact that it is taking 30 mins out of your life to catch up every time would not stand up in the court of legal logic as a rational for closing things down. What's the problem, it's being enjoyed too much? There's no abuse or intolerant language-why spoil other people's fun! Maybe you've just got over involved with it especially as a lot of people claim, like Coronation Street, it's not real
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I think the existing legislation covers this, but for some reason it is not being applied to the Audiophile industry, perhaps because its not getting reported. Sometimes people with the technical knowledge who know it is wrong seem to respond to this situation by rolling their eyes and laughing at it (occasionally some might possibly even participate for the dollar) and this thread shows it is an endless source of entertainment, but is there anyone on this entire thread that has made an official complaint to a consumer watchdog or government department ? I cannot say that I have either. |
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Steve. PS Please, why should this thread be either closed or deleted? It's the most fun I've ever read here and is in addition to that a very interesting discussion
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