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Old 26th Mar 2020, 10:25 pm   #1
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Common' all you Cyclops addicts - what set is this?
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Might be a Pye V110 or the version marketed as an Invicta. Intro year 1959.

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Old 27th Mar 2020, 1:26 am   #3
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Charming photo, nice happy smile.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 4:50 pm   #4
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Philco 1019. Did the 'Slender Seventeener' model 1000 have the wire front support? John.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 4:57 pm   #5
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It does look a lot like the Pye V110 that can be seen here https://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/...image=10251095.
The smile is probably waiting for it to warm up and show Andy Pandy!
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 5:24 pm   #6
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I don't know what model it is, but if you 'stretch the gamma' a bit, it reveals what looks like five small blocks (letters?), bottom center. Might be a clue.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 6:23 pm   #7
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Hi,
An RGD perchance?
I seem to remember a TV with similar looks that had the controls on the top and a steel case that was earthed with a 'live chassis' within. I'm sure that must have made servicing interesting. . I think the mains lead was a maroon colour.
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Lovely, endearing period photo, a snapshot of a typical household in around 1960. Tiled hearth, ash tray on a stand, magazine holder, sideboard with picture and goldfish bowl on top, centre carpet over lino, and 'the tele' in the corner on a table. The little girl would be about 63 now.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 7:13 pm   #9
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I think the wire support is the giveaway. The PYE 110 does not have this. This cover from the service manual gives some idea. It may be the earlier model 1000. They all look similar. Any other ideas? John.
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John has the correct answer, it's a Philco.

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Thanks Guys .... had you scratching your heads tho' eh? (It's not often that David 'Fernseh' is mistaken!!)
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Forgot about the Philco "Slender Seventeener"
Model 1000 with 90* CRT and 1010 with 110* tube.

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Forgot about the Philco "Slender Seventeener"
Model 1000 with 90* CRT and 1010 with 110* tube.

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He's gettin very old yer know..

I had many of these Philco series through my hands in South West London. Without exception every single one had the I.F.'s twiddled beyond belief!
The 1019 had a manual gain control on the back that operated on Band 1 only, the switching taking place with a small switch that was operated by a sloped section on the underneath of the channel selector.
I drilled out many jammed cores..
The Codenta series that followed was a nice receiver chassis but still suffered I.F. twiddling but not to the same extent as the 1000-1019 series. John.
PS The 1019 had a metal shell cabinet and a 3 core mains lead. Nasty!

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Why did this particular set attract twiddlers so much?
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Why did this particular set attract twiddlers so much?
Surely it couldn't be that consumers had a passion for twiddling the IFs on these sets only. Makes me think that the factory setup was er, 'wanting'.
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I remember outside engineers bringing in the IF deck only for realignment on a regular basis but we never found out the reason for the twiddling or 'who dunit'.We had a chassis dedicated for this purpose and sometimes did a 'while you wait' service.Peter.
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Tightening the loose screws?
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 11:23 am   #18
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The vision AGC system in the Philco 1000 was not very effective and for some reason even worse in the 1019. These sets were subject to cross modulation in strong signal areas and the twiddler guys obviously didn't realise this so their solution was to have a go at the alignment of the IF amplifiers. Crunch up those tuning cores in the IF transformers and make the pictures even worse.
Then leave it to others to sort out the messed up sets.
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What a lovely looking, 'dinky' set.
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 12:57 pm   #20
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The room strikes a chord with me too, typical of the era I was brought up in. At Beamish museum the row of early 1900's houses in the 'town' look just like my grandparents house.

They are building a '50s town there now, looking forward to seeing the TV's.

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