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Old 29th Nov 2022, 5:30 pm   #1
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Default Panasonic RX-ED77 Cassette Mech Timing

Can anyone help me out with this one please?
Does anybody know, or even better, have any instructions, on how to set up the timing on a Panasonic RX-ED77 dual cassette deck please?
The unit in question requires new belts, which I stupidly thought would be an easy replacement. I have the belts and replacement pinch rollers.
I have looked on YouTube, but can only find something in a foreign language, which I can't follow tbh.

If anyone can give me some advice on this I would really appreciate it.

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Old 30th Nov 2022, 9:48 am   #2
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Don't know if this will help, but apparenly it uses an AR2 cassette mechanism series deck.
I've looked at the places I know of for a manual, but can't find one.
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Old 30th Nov 2022, 10:06 am   #3
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Probably will not help much but the RX-ED77 Service Manual can be downloaded from a couple of sites such as manualslib.com

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Old 30th Nov 2022, 11:08 am   #4
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Probably will not help much but the RX-ED77 Service Manual can be downloaded from a couple of sites such as manualslib.com

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Hi David,
Thanks for your reply.
Yeah, I've got the service manual but, unfortunately, it doesn't cover the cassette mech.

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Old 30th Nov 2022, 12:13 pm   #5
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The service manual exploded diagrams do show the cassette mechanism parts but will not really help in terms of fitting parts.

I see some posts in the tapeheads forum which indicate that the referenced AR2 cassette mechanism is Panasonic.

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Old 30th Nov 2022, 12:34 pm   #6
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I canít recall any manual showing how to fit belts. The exploded diagram will give clues about the way its assembled. You then have to work out how to do it. The manuals are meant for service engineers who should have a good idea what to do.
Can I ask what you mean by timing?
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Old 30th Nov 2022, 12:48 pm   #7
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I never knew about the tapeheads forum. Thanks. I have just joined

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Old 30th Nov 2022, 1:00 pm   #8
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Can I ask what you mean by timing?
I presume he means timing as in a car engine's timing belt. Very important in video recorders, where various cogs and levers have to be meshed in exactly the way prescribed in the service manual for anything to work properly, but rarely relevant in audio cassette mechs (though I've had some fun and games with 1980s car cassette machines).
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I canít recall any manual showing how to fit belts. The exploded diagram will give clues about the way its assembled. You then have to work out how to do it. The manuals are meant for service engineers who should have a good idea what to do.
Can I ask what you mean by timing?
The mechs are controlled by a main gear on each deck, which has grooves in it top and underneath. This controls the full operation of the deck. The rotating heads, eject etc. Obviously everything needs to be in the correct position in order for the 'operation levers' to go into the correct grooves on the main gear.
Maybe timing is the wrong wording, but I couldn't think of anything better.

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Can I ask what you mean by timing?
I presume he means timing as in a car engine's timing belt. Very important in video recorders, where various cogs and levers have to be meshed in exactly the way prescribed in the service manual for anything to work properly, but rarely relevant in audio cassette mechs (though I've had some fun and games with 1980s car cassette machines).
That's exactly it, Nick

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Old 30th Nov 2022, 7:33 pm   #11
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There are probably holes or marks on pairs of gears which need to be lined up in a given mode - not very helpful without specific information, I grant you, but they may provide a clue.
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Thereís a Ďneutralí position where the flywheel can turn without driving the mechanism. This corresponds to the stop position on most decks which run the motor at all times. I doubt that you will need to remove any of the gears, if fitted, in order to fit new belts. On many decks there will be a solenoid to start the drive to load the mechanism into play etc. assuming this deck has touch buttons to operate it.
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