Underlining or overlining a word - how? - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Rileyman · 28th Feb 2021, 10:01 pm

Whenever I try to underline a word on this website all I get is a screenful of gobbledegook ! I'm using my wife's Laptop (it is allowed) and normally use Ctrl + u when typing elsewhere . Any ideas ?

Laurie.

AdrianH · 28th Feb 2021, 10:04 pm

If you go to advanced options you can underline words in that screen, highlight the word or words you want then just click on the U with the bar underneath.

Adrian

Radio Wrangler · 28th Feb 2021, 10:12 pm

without the advanced screen I'll just highlight the word underline and I'll click the underline symbol in the message box header. It's now bracketed that word with breakout commands to go into underline mode and then to come back from underline mode. It all looks like regular text with no underline going on. That change is done when you post.

Hang on, here goes...

Edit, yup, it worked! and now I've opened an edit on the message, that word has gone back to regular text with the underline/not underline commands bracketing it.

Italics and bold work in exactly the same way.

David

Terry_VK5TM · 28th Feb 2021, 11:18 pm

A picture paints a thousand words

Paul Stenning · 28th Feb 2021, 11:26 pm

If you want to type the underline tags rather than using the editor, put [U] before the word and [/U] after the word.

You can do the same for bold using [B] [/B] tags and italic using [I] [/I] tags.

And to type these codes without them doing their thing, as I did here, use [NOPARSE] [/NOPARSE] tags (which aren't on any buttons in the editor).

SiriusHardware · 1st Mar 2021, 11:35 am

As a matter of interest is there a way to overline text as opposed to underlining it? I know the editor doesn't have that feature but can it be done with something along the lines of ...text...?

paulsherwin · 1st Mar 2021, 11:57 am

Overlining isn't available as far as I know.

Members should be aware that the mods aren't very keen on pointless and unnecessary formatting, so should use such features sparingly.

merlinmaxwell · 1st Mar 2021, 12:58 pm

A case of...

STYLE
CONTENT

SiriusHardware · 1st Mar 2021, 4:17 pm

Overline would come in useful when discussing microprocessor signals, as it is usually used to signify an active-low signal line or chip pin signal (for example 'CE' with overline would mean an active-low chip-enable signal).

Paul Stenning · 1st Mar 2021, 4:44 pm

Overlining isn't a HTML styling option that can be applied with HTML tags, which is why there are no BB tags for it (the system translates the BB tags in square brackets to HTML tags for display).

The best approach in that case would be to decide on an alternative way for your post such as -CE or /CE, or use a colour, and state at the start that this method implies active low. Or type it in something that does support overlining etc and save as a PDF to attach here. Not ideal but that's all we can do here.

merlinmaxwell · 1st Mar 2021, 5:06 pm

I find the non existence of a BAR (negative) option amusing, all of the computers to render HTML use logic with them.

SiriusHardware · 1st Mar 2021, 6:24 pm

No problem, I just wondered if it was something which existed in the command set but had no specific button shortcut. As Paul says, there is a (sort of) convention to use _SIG or /SIG to indicate an active low signal line where overlining is not available, such as in plain text.

merlinmaxwell · 1st Mar 2021, 8:24 pm

I use /sig in plain, memory efficient unambiguous text too, no rendering required. I also spell out things like OHM and MICRO and MILLI if there is any possibility of confusion. So far I have yet to find a recent (last 40 years) high (or low) level programming language that uses anything but plain 127 (probably a lot fewer) ASCII text characters for input.

Rileyman · 1st Mar 2021, 9:35 pm

Many thanks,everyone, for all the info. --- for the moment I'm OVERWHELMED , but tomorrow, I will get some practice in.

Regards,

Laurie. (a novice!).

Paul Stenning · 1st Mar 2021, 11:21 pm

OK, for overline try [o]Overline[/o] which should give overlined text like this between the tags.

This is the letter O not the number zero.

Having discovered this https://html-shark.com/HTML/Overline.htm I have added 'o' as a custom BB code but not tested it thoroughly. In particular I have not tested it in conjunction with other tags/styling. If it works OK I will add a button for it in due course.

SiriusHardware · 1st Mar 2021, 11:57 pm

Thanks Paul, I really didn't expect you to go to those lengths but since you've been kind enough to do that, I will give it a try when the opportunity arises.

Station X · 2nd Mar 2021, 10:30 am

overlined bold text

OVERLINED BOLD COLOURED TEXT

Quote:

OVERLINED BOLD COLOURED QUOTED TEXT

Paul Stenning · 2nd Mar 2021, 11:15 am

Overlined and underlined

There is now a button in the editor if you click "Go Advanced". It is on the far right, not with the other styling ones, because that's where the system puts custom ones.

SiriusHardware · 2nd Mar 2021, 12:07 pm

Much appreciated, thanks.

28th Feb 2021, 10:01 pm	#1
Rileyman Pentode Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Maldon, Essex, UK. Posts: 100	Underlining or overlining a word - how? Whenever I try to underline a word on this website all I get is a screenful of gobbledegook ! I'm using my wife's Laptop (it is allowed) and normally use Ctrl + u when typing elsewhere . Any ideas ? Laurie.

28th Feb 2021, 10:04 pm	#2
AdrianH Heptode Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Blackburn with Darwen, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 710	Re: Underlining a word - how? If you go to advanced options you can underline words in that screen, highlight the word or words you want then just click on the U with the bar underneath. Adrian __________________ Ask questions and learn, or try to!

28th Feb 2021, 10:12 pm	#3
Radio Wrangler Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fife, Scotland, UK. Posts: 17,414	Re: Underlining a word - how? without the advanced screen I'll just highlight the word underline and I'll click the underline symbol in the message box header. It's now bracketed that word with breakout commands to go into underline mode and then to come back from underline mode. It all looks like regular text with no underline going on. That change is done when you post. Hang on, here goes... Edit, yup, it worked! and now I've opened an edit on the message, that word has gone back to regular text with the underline/not underline commands bracketing it. Italics and bold work in exactly the same way. David __________________ Can't afford the volcanic island yet, but the plans for my monorail and the goons' uniforms are done

28th Feb 2021, 11:18 pm	#4
Terry_VK5TM Octode Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tintinara, South Australia, Australia Posts: 1,600	Re: Underlining a word - how? A picture paints a thousand words Attached Thumbnails __________________ Terry VK5TM https://www.vk5tm.com/

28th Feb 2021, 11:26 pm	#5
Paul Stenning Administrator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cardiff Posts: 8,015	Re: Underlining a word - how? If you want to type the underline tags rather than using the editor, put [U] before the word and [/U] after the word. You can do the same for bold using [B] [/B] tags and italic using [I] [/I] tags. And to type these codes without them doing their thing, as I did here, use [NOPARSE] [/NOPARSE] tags (which aren't on any buttons in the editor). __________________ Paul Stenning Forum Admin/Owner and BVWS Committee Member

1st Mar 2021, 11:35 am	#6
SiriusHardware Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Newcastle, Tyne and Wear, UK. Posts: 6,423	Re: Underlining a word - how? As a matter of interest is there a way to overline text as opposed to underlining it? I know the editor doesn't have that feature but can it be done with something along the lines of ...text...?

1st Mar 2021, 11:57 am	#7
paulsherwin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 21,525	Re: Underlining a word - how? Overlining isn't available as far as I know. Members should be aware that the mods aren't very keen on pointless and unnecessary formatting, so should use such features sparingly.

1st Mar 2021, 12:58 pm	#8
merlinmaxwell Dekatron Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maidenhead, Berkshire, UK. Posts: 10,662	Re: Underlining a word - how? A case of... STYLE CONTENT __________________ Cats have staff, it's dogs that have owners.

1st Mar 2021, 4:17 pm	#9
SiriusHardware Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Newcastle, Tyne and Wear, UK. Posts: 6,423	Re: Underlining a word - how? Overline would come in useful when discussing microprocessor signals, as it is usually used to signify an active-low signal line or chip pin signal (for example 'CE' with overline would mean an active-low chip-enable signal).

1st Mar 2021, 4:44 pm	#10
Paul Stenning Administrator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cardiff Posts: 8,015	Re: Underlining a word - how? Overlining isn't a HTML styling option that can be applied with HTML tags, which is why there are no BB tags for it (the system translates the BB tags in square brackets to HTML tags for display). The best approach in that case would be to decide on an alternative way for your post such as -CE or /CE, or use a colour, and state at the start that this method implies active low. Or type it in something that does support overlining etc and save as a PDF to attach here. Not ideal but that's all we can do here. __________________ Paul Stenning Forum Admin/Owner and BVWS Committee Member

1st Mar 2021, 5:06 pm	#11
merlinmaxwell Dekatron Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maidenhead, Berkshire, UK. Posts: 10,662	Re: Underlining a word - how? I find the non existence of a BAR (negative) option amusing, all of the computers to render HTML use logic with them. __________________ Cats have staff, it's dogs that have owners.

1st Mar 2021, 6:24 pm	#12
SiriusHardware Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Newcastle, Tyne and Wear, UK. Posts: 6,423	Re: Underlining a word - how? No problem, I just wondered if it was something which existed in the command set but had no specific button shortcut. As Paul says, there is a (sort of) convention to use _SIG or /SIG to indicate an active low signal line where overlining is not available, such as in plain text.

1st Mar 2021, 8:24 pm	#13
merlinmaxwell Dekatron Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maidenhead, Berkshire, UK. Posts: 10,662	Re: Underlining a word - how? I use /sig in plain, memory efficient unambiguous text too, no rendering required. I also spell out things like OHM and MICRO and MILLI if there is any possibility of confusion. So far I have yet to find a recent (last 40 years) high (or low) level programming language that uses anything but plain 127 (probably a lot fewer) ASCII text characters for input. __________________ Cats have staff, it's dogs that have owners.

1st Mar 2021, 9:35 pm	#14
Rileyman Pentode Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Maldon, Essex, UK. Posts: 100	Re: Underlining a word - how? Many thanks,everyone, for all the info. --- for the moment I'm OVERWHELMED , but tomorrow, I will get some practice in. Regards, Laurie. (a novice!).

1st Mar 2021, 11:21 pm	#15
Paul Stenning Administrator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cardiff Posts: 8,015	Re: Underlining a word - how? OK, for overline try [o]Overline[/o] which should give overlined text like this between the tags. This is the letter O not the number zero. Having discovered this https://html-shark.com/HTML/Overline.htm I have added 'o' as a custom BB code but not tested it thoroughly. In particular I have not tested it in conjunction with other tags/styling. If it works OK I will add a button for it in due course. __________________ Paul Stenning Forum Admin/Owner and BVWS Committee Member

1st Mar 2021, 11:57 pm	#16
SiriusHardware Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Newcastle, Tyne and Wear, UK. Posts: 6,423	Re: Underlining or overlining a word - how? Thanks Paul, I really didn't expect you to go to those lengths but since you've been kind enough to do that, I will give it a try when the opportunity arises.

2nd Mar 2021, 11:15 am	#18
Paul Stenning Administrator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cardiff Posts: 8,015	Re: Underlining or overlining a word - how? Overlined and underlined There is now a button in the editor if you click "Go Advanced". It is on the far right, not with the other styling ones, because that's where the system puts custom ones. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Paul Stenning Forum Admin/Owner and BVWS Committee Member

2nd Mar 2021, 12:07 pm	#19
SiriusHardware Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Newcastle, Tyne and Wear, UK. Posts: 6,423	Re: Underlining or overlining a word - how? Much appreciated, thanks.