14th Sep 2020, 4:26 pm | #181 |
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Re: Bodges
I admit that I am tempted to make the cable safe, test that the metal work is isolated and toast a single piece of bread before using it as an exhibition only unit.
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14th Sep 2020, 4:31 pm | #182 |
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Re: Bodges
And don't forget the metal fork to remove the stuck toast and the rude awakening when you realise that the toaster is still plugged in! or , those were the days of not a thought of one's safety.
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14th Sep 2020, 8:36 pm | #183 |
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Re: Bodges
Given the rather splendid toast the second side arrangement, it wouldn't be very likely that the toast extracting fork would get into contact with the element.
Just fit an RCD type plug to that nice twisted pair cotton covered flex
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14th Sep 2020, 9:32 pm | #184 |
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And this was in Worthing, done by professional electricians.
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14th Sep 2020, 11:23 pm | #185 |
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Re: Bodges
Whenever someone says "get the professionals in" I can't help thinking of Bodie and Doyle from the TV series. Mind you they may make a better job of it!!
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15th Sep 2020, 12:48 am | #186 |
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Re: Bodges
Being a professional is no guarantee of quality. We had a new kitchen fitted in our last house. It was fine, but we had under cupboard lights, nothing complicated just fluorescent strips. The professional electrician used what was obviously reclaimed cable. Perfectly safe and fully signed off with the relevant chitty, but a little off.
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15th Sep 2020, 9:34 pm | #187 |
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Re: Bodges
That's about right. I do my own house wiring and my electrician (a friend) just signs it off if it's notifiable for a nominal fee. He says I do a 10x better job than he does!
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15th Sep 2020, 11:23 pm | #188 | |
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17th Sep 2020, 12:51 pm | #189 |
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Re: Bodges
I claim no expertise but I must admit, I've raised a few eyebrows at some electrical work I've seen. Sometimes I've spotted the fault when the sparky couldn't and then had to make a "I wonder if it is anything to do with that?" suggestion.
I wouldn't consider doing other than the most rudimentary replacement work now. The important thing these days is to have the certificate. |
22nd Sep 2020, 3:20 pm | #190 |
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Re: Bodges
I used to install house alarms, did it for nearly 30 years, I will never forget the first house alarm I did, it was in Hockley in Birmingham, I had run all the cables and was about to fit a magnetic contact on to the back window. it was then she warned me about the window and showed me her handy work. She had only wired the metal window frame to the mains. This woman was a nurse at the local hospital, she had been broken into 3 times in 6 months, how desperate can you get. Absolutely shocking. Not radio related but I thought it was worth sharing.
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22nd Sep 2020, 5:38 pm | #191 |
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This is far from a bodge. Whatever the provocation, and we can all sympathise, this could lead to a charge of manslaughter, or even murder as it's premeditated. She's lucky she didn't seriously injure a tradesman.
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3rd Oct 2020, 6:36 pm | #192 |
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Re: Bodges
Is it a bodge - or a sensible, pragmatic rework - to use half a bridge-rectifier as replacment for two separate no-longer-available-except-at-a-silly-price-from-a-source-of-questionable-trustworthiness power-diodes?
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3rd Oct 2020, 8:40 pm | #193 |
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Definitely not a bodge. A sensible, pragmatic modification like you said. I did something similar recently.
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3rd Oct 2020, 8:50 pm | #194 |
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Re: Bodges
Many years ago when I used to visit my Great Grandma, she used to connect her clothes Iron into the ceiling lighting using two crocodile clips.
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3rd Oct 2020, 9:10 pm | #195 | |
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3rd Oct 2020, 9:43 pm | #196 |
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Not a bodge at all! Compared to trying to find a pair of now long-obsolescent stud or press-fit diodes (often possible but at a king's ransom from anywhere half-trustworthy), or either two single or one double TO220-type diodes of appropriate polarity- less easy to connect and questions of isolation and poor thermal transfer and contact area to consider, the integrated bridge package wins from several viewpoints. Easy mechanical fitment, connection and good contact area, lots of choice and low cost. I suppose the main caveat is that off-the-shelf integrated bridges probably aren't intended for use much above 400Hz (perhaps?).
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3rd Oct 2020, 9:46 pm | #197 | |
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6th Oct 2020, 11:21 am | #198 |
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Re: Bodges
I had a look at an Amstrad Stereo 8000 amplifier today, check out the dubious mounting of the mains in tagboard!!! and it looks original
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6th Oct 2020, 11:24 am | #199 |
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Re: Bodges
Not to mention the knot in the mains flex. Quite common at one time.
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6th Oct 2020, 12:07 pm | #200 |
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Talking of mass-produced bottom-of-barrel horridness, the Sinclair integrated amp that was in a big box of assorted auction junk I once acquired featured the connector sockets used on olde-worlde HT batteries as mains outlets! I expect he'd bought them by the hundred-weight from some surplus wholesaler. The overall dreadfulness of the thing left me gawping, the lowest-bid mains transformer had lams that looked as though they'd been cut with blunt tin snips, it had left much of its wax puddled on the base. I scrapped it, the only useful things within were the BA screws.
How did anyone get away with flogging that sort of thing? |