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Old 17th Sep 2020, 1:31 pm   #61
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I would argue that CRT ARE obsolete for general mass market new production, as distinct from niche markets and the continued use of existing equipment.

A valid comparison could be carbon arc lamps, gas lighting, and oil lamps. All are still used today in special circumstances but could reasonably be regarded as obsolete for everyday lighting of homes and workplaces.
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Old 17th Sep 2020, 4:54 pm   #62
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I suspect the big heavy 28" up FST sets and the 20" up CRTs will soon be long gone except where a few collectors make a point of keeping them probably against strong domestic objections.
I'm glad to report no domestic objections at all to the 26" Beovision 8802 which is still the main household set here, though admittedly it doesn't get much work to do.

Has anyone met the Jocril brand, which seems to be the CRT's last hurrah in terms of UK availability, albeit at a jaw-dropping price?

https://amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listin...&condition=all

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Old 17th Sep 2020, 9:54 pm   #63
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Who on Earth would pay £460 for what is typical nondescript 1990s TV set?
For that money one can buy a super big screen 4K LCD television set.

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Old 17th Sep 2020, 10:22 pm   #64
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A 33cm set even, and given the model number GT-9313A it could be new old stock sporting a Kong Wah chassis or similar. It probably cost 99 quid or less when it was new new stock.
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Old 17th Sep 2020, 10:23 pm   #65
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I remember about 2-3 years ago someone put on eBay a job lot of late 1990s NOS Sanyo TVs which had somehow been forgotten about in a warehouse for the best part of 2 decades.

Single sets were available, but they were offering discounts for multiple purchases.
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Old 17th Sep 2020, 10:53 pm   #66
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Copied from the advert:
Connections SCART
Display technology CRT
Display CRT
Display Size 14 Inches
About this item
14" - 37 cm
SCART connection
antenna connection
remote control


Maarten wrote: "It probably cost 99 quid or less when it was new new stock."

At least it's got a SCART connector.

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Old 18th Sep 2020, 10:09 am   #67
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From the 1983 Bond film "Never Say Never Again" On the wall flat screen television.

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I used to like The Goodies' TV screen on a window blind.
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Old 18th Sep 2020, 11:31 am   #69
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From the 1983 Bond film "Never Say Never Again" On the wall flat screen television.

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It may well be a flat screen telly but the props department have pasted a CRT image onto it
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Old 18th Sep 2020, 2:41 pm   #70
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It would have been a projection set, apart from that.
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Different name on that Jocril set but its the exact same TV and Chassis as my Dansai 9313A that im currently working on fixing ( theres a thread on it)
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Old 18th Sep 2020, 3:11 pm   #72
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In Thunderbirds, Jeff Tracy's family portraits are disguised flat-screens, so we have Gerry Anderson to thank for the current craze for vertical-video, as well as sat-nav (Clear-Vu in Supercar).
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Old 19th Sep 2020, 12:28 am   #73
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Vertical video was also used for broadcast TV and video telephone communication in the film "2001 - a space oddessy", as were seat-back flat screen TVs in aircraft/spacecraft. The relevant scene from 2001 was cited in legal action in the US to invalidate a patent for seat-back TVs in aircraft. A member of the film's special effects team gave evidence that what was shown in the film was not an actual flat screen TV built into a seat back, but a conventional monitor that occupied most of the seat in front, the camera angle being such that you never saw it.
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Old 19th Sep 2020, 2:37 pm   #74
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I imagine the special effects team were pleased it was mistaken for a working flat screen.

There are a few other things like that in films & TV which have fooled people, even professionals.
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I believe that the map display depicted built into James Bond's Aston Martin in "Goldfinger" that he used to track another car, was the screen of a real device as used in British fighter aircraft. I am not sure if it used a CRT display, but it would never have fitted in an Aston Martin as, when installed in an aircraft, it extended a couple of feet into the nose cone.
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