Can anyone identify this TV? - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

boomer8 · 10th Mar 2011, 7:53 pm

I recently inherited this TV - it is obvioulsy a Kolster Brandes; and I believe it dates from around 1953. Can anyone add to my limited knowledge please?

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audiomagpie · 11th Mar 2011, 12:48 am

That looks to be in a nice condition. If you remove the hardboard back there should be a model number plate on the back of the chassis. Then see if it's listed on the link below. DON'T be temped to plug it in though until it has been checked over by a vintage TV expert, if you're not one yourself there will be plenty of advice available on this forum.

Greg

http://www.thevalvepage.com/tvmanu/kb/kb.htm

boomer8 · 11th Mar 2011, 1:57 am

Thanks Greg - anyone's recommendations as to who could give this the once over before I plug it in would be much appreciated

Dr-Watts · 11th Mar 2011, 9:32 am

If it does work you won't recieve anything on it.
The last 405 TX was switched off in 1985.
Regards
Dr. Dave

ppppenguin · 11th Mar 2011, 9:39 am

Welcome ot the forum. You've got a handsome looking set there with a cabinet in very good condition. Echoing the advice of others: Don't switch it on. It could do expensive damage to the set. Your set works only on the obsolete 405 line system which closed down in 1985. It will not receive anything without a special converter which costs about £200. Many of us here operate sets of this vintage and older still - just look at some of the threads in the this section of the forum.

I can't immediately identifiy the set but it's a little later than 1953. AS far as I can tell from the photos it has a 13 channel tuner which places it as 1955 or later, after the start of ITV.

FERNSEH · 11th Mar 2011, 12:12 pm

The set is a K B model MV40. This 13 channel set will be of 1956 vintage.

DFWB.

boomer8 · 11th Mar 2011, 12:49 pm

Following Greg's advice I've had the back off and the model number is an MF50, which from the site Greg gave the link to puts it at September 1955.

Andy

oldticktock · 11th Mar 2011, 1:24 pm

And according to data means it has the unmodified MV60 chassis installed, ERT sheet 1042. & Trader 1250.

There was a table version the 'MV60' and your console the 'MV50', It has a Brimar C17FM CRT a Mazda CRM174 is its equiv

Edit:

Also in Radio & Television servicing 1956-1957 page 455 (for those that have them)

If you need the data (service sheet) just ask

Sideband · 11th Mar 2011, 1:57 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by audiomagpie

That looks to be in a nice condition

...and I'll bet it will be a cracker when it's restored. Most KB sets had an excellent performance.

SB

chipp1968 · 13th Mar 2011, 4:48 pm

Thats a lovely looking set

what are you going to do with it ?

Baggrus · 20th Mar 2011, 8:40 pm

just a thought.. could the F in the model number denote a fringe version?

oldticktock · 21st Mar 2011, 10:48 am

The chassis in the MF50 is the unmodified MV60 chassis, so not a fringe modification. I Checked the ERT, Trader and R&TS and that seems to confirm it too.

10th Mar 2011, 7:53 pm	#1
boomer8 Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Leeds. Posts: 4	Can anyone identify this TV? I recently inherited this TV - it is obvioulsy a Kolster Brandes; and I believe it dates from around 1953. Can anyone add to my limited knowledge please?

11th Mar 2011, 12:48 am	#2
audiomagpie Heptode Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire, UK. Posts: 824	Re: Can anyone identify this TV? That looks to be in a nice condition. If you remove the hardboard back there should be a model number plate on the back of the chassis. Then see if it's listed on the link below. DON'T be temped to plug it in though until it has been checked over by a vintage TV expert, if you're not one yourself there will be plenty of advice available on this forum. Greg http://www.thevalvepage.com/tvmanu/kb/kb.htm __________________ Greg BVWS committee chairman

11th Mar 2011, 1:57 am	#3
boomer8 Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Leeds. Posts: 4	Re: Can anyone identify this TV? Thanks Greg - anyone's recommendations as to who could give this the once over before I plug it in would be much appreciated

11th Mar 2011, 9:32 am	#4
Dr-Watts Heptode Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire, UK. Posts: 696	Re: Can anyone identify this TV? If it does work you won't recieve anything on it. The last 405 TX was switched off in 1985. Regards Dr. Dave __________________ Do you have the scope to be a TV repair man

11th Mar 2011, 9:39 am	#5
ppppenguin Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: North London, UK. Posts: 6,168	Re: Can anyone identify this TV? Welcome ot the forum. You've got a handsome looking set there with a cabinet in very good condition. Echoing the advice of others: Don't switch it on. It could do expensive damage to the set. Your set works only on the obsolete 405 line system which closed down in 1985. It will not receive anything without a special converter which costs about £200. Many of us here operate sets of this vintage and older still - just look at some of the threads in the this section of the forum. I can't immediately identifiy the set but it's a little later than 1953. AS far as I can tell from the photos it has a 13 channel tuner which places it as 1955 or later, after the start of ITV.

11th Mar 2011, 12:12 pm	#6
FERNSEH Dekatron Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gateshead, Tyne and Wear, UK. Posts: 7,444	Re: Can anyone identify this TV? The set is a K B model MV40. This 13 channel set will be of 1956 vintage. DFWB.

11th Mar 2011, 12:49 pm	#7
boomer8 Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Leeds. Posts: 4	Re: Can anyone identify this TV? Following Greg's advice I've had the back off and the model number is an MF50, which from the site Greg gave the link to puts it at September 1955. Andy

11th Mar 2011, 1:24 pm	#8
oldticktock Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Weardale, UK. Posts: 1,981	Re: Can anyone identify this TV? And according to data means it has the unmodified MV60 chassis installed, ERT sheet 1042. & Trader 1250. There was a table version the 'MV60' and your console the 'MV50', It has a Brimar C17FM CRT a Mazda CRM174 is its equiv Edit: Also in Radio & Television servicing 1956-1957 page 455 (for those that have them) If you need the data (service sheet) just ask Last edited by oldticktock; 11th Mar 2011 at 1:48 pm.

13th Mar 2011, 4:48 pm	#10
chipp1968 Rest in Peace Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somerset, UK. Posts: 2,356	Re: Can anyone identify this TV? Thats a lovely looking set what are you going to do with it ?

20th Mar 2011, 8:40 pm	#11
Baggrus Pentode Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wigan, Greater Manchester, UK. Posts: 163	Re: Can anyone identify this TV? just a thought.. could the F in the model number denote a fringe version?

21st Mar 2011, 10:48 am	#12
oldticktock Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Weardale, UK. Posts: 1,981	Re: Can anyone identify this TV? The chassis in the MF50 is the unmodified MV60 chassis, so not a fringe modification. I Checked the ERT, Trader and R&TS and that seems to confirm it too.