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Old 24th Jul 2009, 9:26 am   #101
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Having just read Joe Roper's letter in yesterday's Daily Mail, I note that he has his facts right re-the differences between the 625 and 405line systems, but he obviously isn't aware of standards converters.
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 10:01 am   #102
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Well done Jeffrey.

A hopeful side effect of all this publicity will be that some old sets (particularly pre 1980 ones) will be kept in the lofts, spare rooms, garages etc where they currently slumber, rather than rudely awakened and taken to the tip on the grounds that 'they will never work again now, they haven't got a Scart socket'!
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 3:51 pm   #103
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Good Day, Gentlemen,

Hello Jeffrey,

I watched your very suave and oh-so-British BBC presentation of your priceless mirror-lid gem.

Pardon my French, but it's very interesting to observe how you downplay in such matter of fact terms the huge amount of dedication needed, intense work, technical hurdles, parts supply problems and downright menaces to life risks to make this 70 year old "Grandmother of all TVs" work again.

Kudos! to you & blow your own horn for such an achievement!

I am honored to have been visited by such a future Celeb when you came to France last year; hope to see you again sometime on "the Continent side" of the Channel.

Just to keep the members abreast of French happenings, French TV celebrated on June 29th the 60th birthday of TV News which began in 1949:

Video links to TF1's site, privatized 24 years ago, but which was France's BBC-1:

http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-13h/retour-s...s-4455471.html

http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-13h/les-jour...s-4455450.html

http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-we/six-decen...s-4454986.html

1949 LMT TVs (7JP4 CRT) owned by French collectors Bruno Piffret and Andrew Chompret can be seen.

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Old 24th Jul 2009, 4:10 pm   #104
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Betty Boop - A man after my own heart Jeffrey!

Why do you say the tube is down? It looks fine to me.

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Old 24th Jul 2009, 4:43 pm   #105
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The BBC pictures and press photography rather flatter the CRT. It's dim. I've seen what a good one is like and it's vastly better.
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 9:05 pm   #106
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I wonder whether any of the prototype sets that Blumlein and his colleagues would have built in order to test the television system they invented have survived?
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 9:22 pm   #107
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I wonder whether any of the prototype sets that Blumlein and his colleagues would have built in order to test the television system they invented have survived?
Not that I know of, not even at the EMI museum back in the 1980s.

A huge triniscope colour monitor using 3x 14" CRTs and massive dichroics (1950s vintage?) was recovered from the old and abandoned EMI research labs building around 1985. I ought to know - I found it and helped to recover it. ISTR it went into the care of the RTS but beyond that I know not. A new thread needed if anyone knows about it.
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 10:10 pm   #108
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I wonder whether any of the prototype sets that Blumlein and his colleagues would have built in order to test the television system they invented have survived?
I suspect the attached is probably a prototype for the Marconi 702 / HMV 90.

The very early production units like the one tested by Wireless World had various differences around the chassis, especially the power supply which is more restricting for test access around the tube base etc. Scroll down on this for a comparision of early and later production:
http://www.scottpeter.pwp.blueyonder...intagetech.htm

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Old 25th Jul 2009, 12:34 am   #109
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The CBC One program just ended. Jeff's segment was the last one, so when they do post it on their website you can go to about the last 10 minutes to find it.

A very nice interview indeed! Quite a bit different from the BBC one and the printed articles. There were two promo's for the segment, one at the beginning of the show, and one after the half hour break. During the second one they did call it the "Oldest Idiot Box" in the UK.

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Old 25th Jul 2009, 6:48 am   #110
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I suspect the attached is probably a prototype for the Marconi 702 / HMV 901.
Peter, please don't keep us all guessing, where is this set?
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Old 25th Jul 2009, 8:14 am   #111
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Looks like the prototype Marconi 700 to me. Its a 9" model I believe. J.
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Old 25th Jul 2009, 8:29 am   #112
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Sorry Jeffrey, but I don't know. It appeared on eBay a year or two back.
It most closely resembles the early HMV901 that Wireless World tested but I don't think it carried any HMV or Marconi logo and I don't think such a set was ever marketed.

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Old 25th Jul 2009, 9:03 am   #113
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Hi John,

Yes, I think it was a 9" set but the title "Marconi 700" was simply a guess on the part of the owner because the number 700 was otherwise unused.

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Old 25th Jul 2009, 10:29 am   #114
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Looks like it's spawned a couple of other items on the BBC website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8160741.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8167980.stm
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Old 25th Jul 2009, 12:44 pm   #115
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Can I say Jeff that we couldnt ask for a better ambassador for our cause, you have a wonderfully clear voice and a very english restrained enthusiasm for the subject.
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Old 26th Jul 2009, 8:35 am   #116
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Can't say I'm too surprised to find myself in this cabinet of curiosities:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/magazinem...his_t_19.shtml
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Old 26th Jul 2009, 10:49 am   #117
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This was in a local Sussex Paper yesterday

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/45109..._to_1938/#show
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Old 26th Jul 2009, 10:59 am   #118
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John, I thought you ticked the box for "no publicity"
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Old 26th Jul 2009, 11:42 am   #119
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I think we need some serial number checking.

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Old 26th Jul 2009, 1:00 pm   #120
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If this had developed into a serious competition between (say) Peter Scott, John Wakely, David Boynes, Steve Ostler and one or two others it would have been very difficult to establish precedence.

Unless somebody is really trying to establish the exact history of EMI TV making in 1936 I can't see much point. I'm not after bragging rights and I guess none of the others are either.
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