Pre-war set at Science Museum - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Panrock · 13th Feb 2016, 12:21 pm

This attractive set was snapped by a friend recently visiting the Science Museum. What is it?

A Pye 843 perhaps?

Steve

Peter.N. · 13th Feb 2016, 12:25 pm

Not one I have seen, but I bet its worth a lot of money.

Peter

FERNSEH · 13th Feb 2016, 12:32 pm

That's a really rare one. It's a Pye and is similar in some respects to the model 4046. The display set has the added refinement of a radio receiver.

DFWB.

stubbyeddy · 13th Feb 2016, 3:22 pm

I have the PYE 835 radio which uses the same radio control panel with push buttons and a strange little tone switch on the left hand side, I assume this TV set uses the same radio chassis ? my set is dated 1937

Michael Maurice · 13th Feb 2016, 4:18 pm

I thought the pre war sets had their CRT's vertically mounted because of the very small deflection angle.

Panrock · 13th Feb 2016, 4:40 pm

Vertical tube/mirror lid was often the case for 12" and above, particularly for the models introduced in 1936/7. But 9-inch (as here?) and smaller could be direct view and just have very deep cabinets.

Steve

Jac · 13th Feb 2016, 5:38 pm

Could it be an Invicta TL2 ??
(I don't know how those Invictas look - at least Pye-ish.)

Jac

radiomarktv · 13th Feb 2016, 10:15 pm

Steve, you are correct that this is a Pye 843 of 1938. I talked to Gordon Bussey about the set many years ago as he restored the set in 1986. Sadly he's no longer with us to comment further about the restoration. I've also spoke to John Trenouth about it too when the set was in storage at Wroughton. It is the only known example as like my 4046 of 1937 that David has mentioned.
Mark

FERNSEH · 13th Feb 2016, 10:22 pm

From the Early Television Foundation website: Pictures of the Pye 843 and the 4046 along with many other pre-war Pye TVs.

http://www.earlytelevision.org/pye.html

DFWB.

Peter.N. · 14th Feb 2016, 12:22 am

Cossor made a 15" set before the war with a conventionally mounted tube, it had a scarily long neck projecting from the rear. This also had a built in radio with a 7 metre band on which you tuned in the sound. We scrapped a few of those in the '50s - I wish we hadn't!

Peter

gary_crutchley · 14th Feb 2016, 12:33 am

It looks identical to the one in column one, row three of this page:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/pye.html

13th Feb 2016, 12:21 pm	#1
Panrock Nonode Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worcestershire, UK. Posts: 2,534	Pre-war set at Science Museum This attractive set was snapped by a friend recently visiting the Science Museum. What is it? A Pye 843 perhaps? Steve Attached Thumbnails __________________ https://www.radiocraft.co.uk

13th Feb 2016, 12:25 pm	#2
Peter.N. Dekatron Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Charmouth, Dorset, UK. Posts: 3,601	Re: Pre-war set at Science Museum Not one I have seen, but I bet its worth a lot of money. Peter

13th Feb 2016, 12:32 pm	#3
FERNSEH Dekatron Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gateshead, Tyne and Wear, UK. Posts: 7,444	Re: Pre-war set at Science Museum That's a really rare one. It's a Pye and is similar in some respects to the model 4046. The display set has the added refinement of a radio receiver. DFWB.

13th Feb 2016, 3:22 pm	#4
stubbyeddy Pentode Join Date: May 2005 Location: Newtown, Mid Wales, UK. Posts: 186	Re: Pre-war set at Science Museum I have the PYE 835 radio which uses the same radio control panel with push buttons and a strange little tone switch on the left hand side, I assume this TV set uses the same radio chassis ? my set is dated 1937

13th Feb 2016, 4:18 pm	#5
Michael Maurice Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wembley, Middlesex Posts: 7,225	Re: Pre-war set at Science Museum I thought the pre war sets had their CRT's vertically mounted because of the very small deflection angle. __________________ Forum Moderator http://www.michaelmauricerepairs.co.uk/

13th Feb 2016, 4:40 pm	#6
Panrock Nonode Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worcestershire, UK. Posts: 2,534	Re: Pre-war set at Science Museum Vertical tube/mirror lid was often the case for 12" and above, particularly for the models introduced in 1936/7. But 9-inch (as here?) and smaller could be direct view and just have very deep cabinets. Steve __________________ https://www.radiocraft.co.uk Last edited by Panrock; 13th Feb 2016 at 4:44 pm. Reason: Clarity

13th Feb 2016, 5:38 pm	#7
Jac Heptode Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands. Posts: 642	Re: Pre-war set at Science Museum Could it be an Invicta TL2 ?? (I don't know how those Invictas look - at least Pye-ish.) Jac

13th Feb 2016, 10:15 pm	#8
radiomarktv Pentode Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Henley on Thames, Oxfordshire, UK. Posts: 244	Re: Pre-war set at Science Museum Steve, you are correct that this is a Pye 843 of 1938. I talked to Gordon Bussey about the set many years ago as he restored the set in 1986. Sadly he's no longer with us to comment further about the restoration. I've also spoke to John Trenouth about it too when the set was in storage at Wroughton. It is the only known example as like my 4046 of 1937 that David has mentioned. Mark

13th Feb 2016, 10:22 pm	#9
FERNSEH Dekatron Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gateshead, Tyne and Wear, UK. Posts: 7,444	Re: Pre-war set at Science Museum From the Early Television Foundation website: Pictures of the Pye 843 and the 4046 along with many other pre-war Pye TVs. http://www.earlytelevision.org/pye.html DFWB.

14th Feb 2016, 12:22 am	#10
Peter.N. Dekatron Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Charmouth, Dorset, UK. Posts: 3,601	Re: Pre-war set at Science Museum Cossor made a 15" set before the war with a conventionally mounted tube, it had a scarily long neck projecting from the rear. This also had a built in radio with a 7 metre band on which you tuned in the sound. We scrapped a few of those in the '50s - I wish we hadn't! Peter

14th Feb 2016, 12:33 am	#11
gary_crutchley Heptode Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Bloxwich, West Midlands, UK Posts: 554	Re: Pre-war set at Science Museum It looks identical to the one in column one, row three of this page: http://www.earlytelevision.org/pye.html