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Old 5th May 2022, 2:58 pm   #1
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I have purchased a control unit with the following details on
Bedg-FBG4
Anforder Z Ln26688
Herst.bou
The two pots on the front and two switches are in german
on its rear is a 10/10 in line connector to be attached to a radio?
Does any one know what this was for?
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Old 5th May 2022, 3:08 pm   #2
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Anforder = requestor.
Herst. is abbreviated Hersteller = manufacturer.

What's the German on the controls, please?
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Old 5th May 2022, 3:48 pm   #3
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This has the same LN number/FBG number:

https://milcollectibles.com/index.ph...product_id=534

Which is item 33 in here, remote tuning (fine) of something apparently, receiver?:

https://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/coc...ofil-ju-87-d-5

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Interesting, so its a Fernbediengerät which = remote control apparatus.

There appears to be an on/off switch for a headset.
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Sensitivity (left)

Fine tune (right)

According to Google Translate.

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Old 5th May 2022, 7:27 pm   #6
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Squelch control? If indeed it IS exclusive to the Ju87-(which isn't clear) it's likely to be scarce.
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Old 5th May 2022, 11:22 pm   #7
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Thank you for the help
on the front it has the words empfndichket above a pot
and fenatsi above the second pot
and horet above the 4 way switch
A nice find
very 73s
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Any chance of a picture?
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The first control (pot) has Empndichket above it
the middle switch has Ein and Aius at side of switch
the other control (pot) has one side Aus and other Fenatsi

The photo is as sent by a reader above
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The first control (pot) has Empndichket above it
the middle switch has Ein and Aius at side of switch
the other control (pot) has one side Aus and other Fenatsi
Unless you're used to German script it's not easy to read these but I think they're actually "Empfindlichkeit", "Ein/Aus" and "Feinabst". As Lawrence has already pointed out in post #5 these mean "Sensitivity", "On/Off" and "Fine Tuning" respectively.

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Old 8th May 2022, 3:57 am   #11
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Hello Hugh
Thank you, Do you know what equipment this was attached too, or the contact details of a Museum in Germany?
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So far as I can make out the radio kit in the JU87 was the FUG16Z (R/T) and the FUG25A (IFF)

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From a couple of poor res. images of Ju87 cockpits i can make out a unit that looks quite similar to the one Andy has. The one example of this a/c that we have in the UK is probably still at Hendon, but a) it was modified to a newer spec. whilst in service and b) the brief flight trials undertaken by the British wouldn't necessarily have required a functioning radio. (So a visit may be disappointing even if you could get near it.)

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Hello Hugh
Thank you, Do you know what equipment this was attached too, or the contact details of a Museum in Germany?
73s
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I'm afraid that I have very little knowledge on this subject, just a smattering of German learnt during my military service.

Having done a bit of googling I'd agree with Lawrence that the most likely candidate is FuG16, though I can't find any pictures of that radio which your control box (or anything like it). Early models of the JU87 seem to have been fitted with a different radio, which presumably explains why some JU87 cockpit pictures show the control box and some don't.

As to potential museum contacts it may be worth trying the Bundeswehr Museum of Military History (scroll well down the page to find an email address) and/or the Bundeswehr's Luftwaffe Museum at Gatow. Finally, if you can find contact details for the person behind this video they may be able to help.

Good luck!
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I think that R/T might have been behind the pilot in the area that the operator/rear gunner was, apparently some JU87's were fitted with that R/T and some were not, possibly the earlier ones.

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