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15th Aug 2022, 7:27 pm | #21 |
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Re: EPROM Programmer
Wow, what a cool looking bit of kit. Straight out of a spy movie.
Online copy of a SUPPLEMENT to the main manual here:- http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/pro-log...ment_Oct81.pdf It does have the words 'PROM programmer' on the front panel, as we can see on the first page of the manual. Volume 2 of the manual is here, but you have to sign up to read it all: https://www.***********/document/513...sManVol2-Oct80 Still have not found volume 1. |
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15th Aug 2022, 7:33 pm | #23 |
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Ah, look down this page for all instances of 'PRO LOG M980'.
http://ftb.ko4bb.com/getsimple/index...aneous/VARIOUS |
15th Aug 2022, 7:36 pm | #24 | |||
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My goodness - that looks like a thing of beauty. Thank for braving the heat and getting it out. The manual I can find seems to indicate it will cover 2532s
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/pro-log...hure_May81.pdf http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/pro-log...nual_Jun85.pdf I'm in Scotland, so there's no way I can get to you to pick it up, nor do I have any relations in your neck of the woods. I'll understand if it's too difficult to post. If you do feel able to package/post it, I will of course cover all the costs and let you know how it goes once it's here. Colin. Quote:
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15th Aug 2022, 7:44 pm | #25 |
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Hi Colin,
I would need to weigh & investigate courier charges ? Not sure it it helps but we will be visiting daughter in Cullercoats North Shields next week (staying for two weeks) so could bring it with us. Rog |
15th Aug 2022, 7:49 pm | #26 |
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Ho, Hum, I live about 3 miles from there. I feel a trip to the borders or Edinburgh coming on. (If you can arrange direct carriage by courier etc that will obviously be simplest, but if not...).
If the 'personaility module' which is fitted is the 'PM9080' then the manual for that (under the link in #23) does mention 2532s. |
15th Aug 2022, 8:03 pm | #27 |
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Re: EPROM Programmer
I can see easily how to copy PROMs - how would I use a PC with this? Presumably using a serial interface and some simple terminal emulation software?
Sirius - I still have my eye on the Stag on the auction website; if this is more one for you, then the logistics look like they may work better? Colin. |
15th Aug 2022, 8:07 pm | #28 |
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Oh no! I'm not trying to hijack it.
I'm saying that I could ferry it onwards from here, if you aren't able to come up with a plan to have it couriered. Come to think of it, SWMBO and I are heading up to Aviemore area in September. All you'd have to do is stand by the side of the A9 with your Baseball Mitts on. It does look very 'hands on' in the sense that it is geared to keyboard entry of code or to copying code from an already existing master but it does look as though it can be driven by commands issued via an RS232 terminal instead, although don't take my word for it, read those manuals, which luckily have been preserved. In some ways this is good, in fact this is the kind of standalone system TonyDuell was hinting at, as it does not appear to have support software which requires an entire working antique PC to run on. It's quite Hardcore, in fact. Last edited by SiriusHardware; 15th Aug 2022 at 8:16 pm. |
15th Aug 2022, 8:09 pm | #29 |
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A big mitt I think.
Let me think. This does look awesome, but it also looks like the Stag might be easier for a novice like me. What do you think? Colin. |
15th Aug 2022, 8:39 pm | #30 |
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I don't really want to sway you either way.
It sounds like you have a few days to decide whether to take up Roger Ramjet's kind offer and ask him to put it in the car when he comes up. If you want to go that way then I will be happy to park it here until September and bring it up past your way. If RR is due to come up before the auction for the other unit ends and you miss out on it, then I dare say you could still negotiate to pay for RR's unit to be couriered directly from Leicester to Perth at a later date. Read everything you can on this unit and the other unit, and make a more informed decision then. |
15th Aug 2022, 9:11 pm | #31 |
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From a brief read of the brochure it seems to support RS232 from computer or paper tape, with intel hex format, so I think it will be easy to use with a usb to serial adapter without any special application on the pc. Its easy to convert from Motorola s-record to Intel hex format if needed.
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15th Aug 2022, 9:54 pm | #32 |
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Given time, you can also write your own 'front panel' in a PC programming language of your choice for a programmer like that because the whole of the RS232 communication format / syntax is known, whereas for typical next-gen parallel port programmers with PC 'front panel' software the communications protocol is usually proprietary / closed source, therefore you usually have no choice other than to find a way to run the original companion PC software.
In the case of the STAG programmers it looks as though someone has analysed the traffic going between the original support software and the programmer and reverse-engineered a version which still intentionally looks like the front end of the original DOS software, but runs on more modern OSes and can use USB-serial interfaces to talk to the RS232 serial ports on the STAG units. However, I have not investigated this further. |
16th Aug 2022, 7:07 pm | #33 |
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Hi Colin & Sirius,
The two units weighs 15 kilo ! I could post or courier but not sure what cost would be ? It would also need protective packing which I don't have at the mo. Happy to bring to Cullercoats next week (Monday night) ... whichever is best for you Colin. |
17th Aug 2022, 10:04 am | #34 |
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Blimey, the Stag PP39. I used many of these at work in the 1980s as well as the Elan E9A series.
I was offered a software development job at Elan Digital Systems in '85 which I declined as I wanted to work with robots instead. I haven't programmed an EPROM since about 1991 and every professional project I've worked on since then has used Flash memory in place of EPROM. John |
17th Aug 2022, 10:19 am | #35 | |
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15 kg is far too much to post I think, never mind how much packaging you'd have to find....
I'll let you know in the next day or two - it may be that it's not the device for me; the size will give my better half a small heart attack I think. I'll be back in touch shortly. Colin. Quote:
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