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29th May 2023, 5:47 pm | #1 |
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Vintage record decks with phono-amps?
Can any one tell me which vintage record decks have a built in pre- amp please.
I an looking for a old record deck that has a built in pre-amp for an aging friend who has a old amplifier valve with only a auxiliary input. He had a sony deck but got damaged by a flood and really wants a replacement. I had thought about adding a pre- amp to one of mine but don't think he can cope with the extra connections, and would much rather have something built in. If any one has any ideas I am all ears. |
29th May 2023, 9:35 pm | #2 |
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Re: Phono-amps
Does it have to be vintage? There is a good choice of modern turntables with MM cartridges with a built in phono stage that should work with his setup
The one that gets the best reviews is the Rega Planar 1 Plus, but there are some good audio technica offerings too. They are relatively pricey though, but the same can be said of most reputable vintage turntables anyway. I don't know of any vintage turntables with an in built phono stage, but I'm sure someone will know of a few. |
29th May 2023, 9:47 pm | #3 |
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Re: Phono-amps
I agree. I don't know of any vintage decks with built in preamps, as amps from the 60s to the 80s almost always had a built in RIAA phono stage. They only started to appear in the late 80s, as amps started to appear without a mag cartridge input as CDs became dominant.
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29th May 2023, 9:53 pm | #4 |
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Re: Phono-amps
B+O had a nice deck with built in phono amp
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29th May 2023, 10:01 pm | #5 |
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Re: Phono-amps
There was quite a decent mini-deck with a preamp branded as a Bush about 20 years ago.
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29th May 2023, 10:03 pm | #6 |
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Re: Phono-amps
I have fitted a phono pre-amp inside the plinth of a turntable, I've even fitted them to the deck itself.
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29th May 2023, 10:07 pm | #7 |
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Re: Phono-amps
My EMT and AEG turntables both have phono stages built-in, but they're hardly 'normal' domestic units. Of current products, the Audio Technica would be a good choice as something very usable and domestically acceptable.
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30th May 2023, 7:41 am | #8 |
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Re: Phono-amps
Sony and Aiwa did decks with a switchable Riaa pre-amp if needed built in, to go with there midi systems
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30th May 2023, 7:46 am | #9 |
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Re: Phono-amps
In the 1960s, Goldring sold a little unit to go in a plinth or cabinet - VV7, I think. It was a two transistor preamplifier with a mans supply built in, designed for this exact purpose.
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30th May 2023, 9:47 am | #10 |
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Re: Vintage record decks with phono-amps?
I would just look for one of those 1970s record players with a built in amp, like this . They're simplicity itself to use and can still be found fairly cheaply. You can perhaps use his existing speakers.
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30th May 2023, 10:28 am | #11 | |
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A modern AT turntable with built-in phono stage is a lot better. S |
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30th May 2023, 11:32 am | #12 | ||
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30th May 2023, 5:28 pm | #14 |
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Re: Vintage record decks with phono-amps?
You really can’t go wrong with a Panasonic SL-N5.
It looks like a silly midi system thing (especially in red) but is ridiculously capable for the £30 or so one will cost you. The replacement stylus is about £10 if you need one, and the built-in phono preamp is switchable and perfectly decent. Heck, it’s even fully automatic! P.S. - Hi Serge! Long time no speak. |
30th May 2023, 11:22 pm | #15 |
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It was the VV7 and it was still available in 1971 according to the Henry's catalogue for the sum of £9.98. However, on the same page, there was one from Eagle International (also mains powered) for only £3.80.
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30th May 2023, 11:23 pm | #16 |
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Oh yes I remember both units and fitted many an eagle pre-amp
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3rd Jun 2023, 3:58 pm | #17 |
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Re: Vintage record decks with phono-amps?
Thank you all so much, what a lot of choice.
I will need to talk to my friend and see what his budget will run to. |