Extinct or very hard to find sets (625 lines to 1990)

[Restoration73]

A 22" Skantic (Luxor) from 1974, vhf/uhf tuner.
Roberts Video badged Philips sets, e.g. G9, from 1976.
Another rebadge, 24" mono d/s Alba (Philips 230 chassis) got one here

The Indesit 12" mono portable was rare.

[Clydeuk]

In the late 70's we briefly had a Philips single standard monochrome TV (hybrid) rented from Visionhire, I assume it was the 300 chassis. I would say 20 inch CRT in a stylish all wood cabinet. I've never seen one since.

[Welsh Anorak]

Yes - Philips 300 chassis was quickly superceded by the solid state 320. The Pye 369 is rare now but was a good set.
The Skantic/Luxor hybrid colour was fairly commonplace and with a good tube (unusual) gave very good results. It had a slightly odd colour drive circuit (EF184s?). Ditto the Tandberg CTV1 with its three PL802s in RGB drive formation.
Odd how the widely disliked Rank A774 frequently turns up whereas the better single standard monos don't - unless it's a 1500!

[dazzlevision]

Originally Posted by Welsh Anorak

The Pye 369 is rare now but was a good set.

369? Never heard of that one. The last Pye group dual standard chassis was the 368 and their first hybrid single standard chassis came in three variants: 169/569/769.

[Welsh Anorak]

Oops - meant the 169 series!

[hans]

Originally Posted by slidertogrid

Another set I haven't seen for decades is the Telefunken sets based on the Decca 30.. They had a varicap tuner with a row of 7 keys to change channel the same button unit as used by Decca on the later console models but mounted vertically. All of the controls were behind a door.

Did Telefunken make sets in the UK?

I would think some Telefunken models are extinct now. The 710 chassis that got very hot combined with tubes that didn't last must be a winner.

[Philips210]

Hi

I recall servicing a Fidelity set using the ZX5000 chassis. This used digital signal processing along the lines of the ITT Digivision though somewhat simplified. I doubt that many of these sets exist now.

Regards
Symon

[FERNSEH]

Found today among the junk upstairs my 1989 Ferguson 51K5 NICAM ICC5 TV set. It's likely very few of these receivers are still in existence so perhaps it makes sense to preserve it.

DFWB.

[Philips210]

Originally Posted by Maarten

I suspect they're less rare in the UK, but it's quite hard to find a Philips 2A on the continent.

Hi.

It's probably the converse with the excellent Philips K12. I would imagine quite rare in the UK now but more common on the continent.
The K12 was used with the 20AX CRT but I think there was a later version of the chassis to drive 30AX CRTs but I never saw one in the UK as it's likely the K30 would have been the first UK Philips chassis for 30AX.

Regards,
Symon.

[kevinaston1]

Many years ago, working at Makro, we had a constant stream of Tokyo Deluxe 12" portables coming in for repair.

I cannot find any mention of these on the web, has anyone seen one, or have a copy of the schematic for them.

Kevin

[FERNSEH]

This set might be worth keeping. It's a Philips 14" portable TV which also has FM radio, might even have NICAM. Model type is 14PT1666/05. L01 chassis. Date code: 0233 which means it was made in 1992.

DFWB.

[Maarten]

Originally Posted by Philips210

It's probably the converse with the excellent Philips K12. I would imagine quite rare in the UK now but more common on the continent.
The K12 was used with the 20AX CRT but I think there was a later version of the chassis to drive 30AX CRTs but I never saw one in the UK as it's likely the K30 would have been the first UK Philips chassis for 30AX.

Problem with the K12 is that it wasn't that excellent after some years of usage. They were thrown out on a large scale in the 1990's.

[Studio263]

Originally Posted by FERNSEH

Found today among the junk upstairs my 1989 Ferguson 51K5 NICAM ICC5 TV set.

That's the definitive version of the ICC5 in my view. A good looking set, streets ahead of the old TX ones in terms of styling and functionality.

[FERNSEH]

Post No. 71. I reckon I got the year of manufacture of the Philips 14PT1666 wrong, it's not 1992, it's 2002.
Comment about the Ferguson 51K5.
Studio263 wrote:
"That's the definitive version of the ICC5 in my view. A good looking set, streets ahead of the old TX ones in terms of styling and functionality."


Absolutely right, the older TX models were worthy sets but the cabinets weren't anything special. Ferguson Limited commissioned an outside company to do the styling job on the 1988 range of TVs.

DFWB.

[Maarten]

For me the definitive ICC5 is the one with the real flat tube.

[Studio263]

I think Ferguson had a tie-in with JVC for TV sets in the period just before the 51K5. The Ferguson-badged JVC set (of which there's a picture in the Setmakers book) looked very smart indeed and was reliable, not surprising at is was all Japanese made. JVC in return got dowdy TX9s and TX10s to put in its catalogue, which looked out of place compared to the ultra high-tech video recorders and audio systems they were also offering. I can scan it in if anyone wants to see what a JVC TX looks like.

Ferguson must have realised that the era of eight pushbutton brown boxes with push-through tubes was coming to an end, these were both brave attempts to jazz up the range. Its just a shame that both came too late to halt an irreversible decline.

[Welsh Anorak]

The definitive ICC5 is one that actually works!
The 51K5 looked good, but had the buttons that fell to pieces and will always be associated in my mind with the smell of hot melt glue and burnt fingers... However the chassis certainly lasted better in that model.
Didn't Thomson/Fersuaon comission Philippe Starck studios to design the cabinets for them?
The old Ferguson cabinets - Fablon on chipboard or photo-printed wood effect on black plastic - what could possibly go wrong?

[dazzlevision]

Originally Posted by Studio263

I think Ferguson had a tie-in with JVC for TV sets in the period just before the 51K5. The Ferguson-badged JVC set (of which there's a picture in the Setmakers book) looked very smart indeed and was reliable, not surprising at is was all Japanese made. JVC in return got dowdy TX9s and TX10s to put in its catalogue, which looked out of place compared to the ultra high-tech video recorders and audio systems they were also offering.

Yes, apart from the J2T set-up (JVC Thorn Telefunken) for manufacturing (assembling) VHS VCRs in Thorn's Newhaven factory (for a shorty while and also in Telefunken's Berlin factory), Thorn EMI Ferguson made JVC "BX" chassis sets (badged as "Ferguson") and in turn, made JVC branded Thorn TX10 sets for JVC. This all changed when Thorn EMI plc sold Thorn EMI Ferguson Ltd to the French company Thomson in 1987.

[Welsh Anorak]

I've never come across a Ferguson badged JVC - possibly because they didn't go wrong! I have come across, rarely, the other way round. Around that time we had Logik TX100s with a poor 'white label' tube and modified tube base and the very popular 20" Logik TX90s with a massive mains transformer and a chassis that was generally burnt to a crisp. Worked well in a portable, but as a main set?
Thorn sets made a last brief appearance around that time badged as Ultra as well as, for some odd reason, Murphy.

[FERNSEH]

More pictures of the Ferguson 51K5. Goes without saying the cabinet styling is a dramatic improvement over the boring looking TX models.

DFWB.