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Old 3rd Aug 2021, 7:33 pm   #1
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Today, discovered this wee creature emerging from a scrap TV cabinet part.
The pre-war cabinet was made from plywood.

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Amazing - and frightening!
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Old 3rd Aug 2021, 7:39 pm   #3
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And it wasn't just the only one.

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Me and my good lady were at Davids shop today and seen the wee Beasties in the flesh and been warm and sunny the Beasties mates came out to play as well they must have been Hibernating inside for over 80 years
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I think your right Bob. Looks like a German trooper emerging and discovering WW2 ended 76 years ago..John.
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In times-past a good dunking in DDT would have been my recommendation. Alas these days we're denied access to truly-effective-and-persistent insecticides.
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Hi My wife said the same thing looks like its got a soldiers helmet on kind regards Bob
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Anobium punctatum give me the creeps, and the little pinkish grubs even moreso- ever since i actually saw one of them.
(A deep freeze is the eco way to kill them but you can't beat chemicals to stop them returning!)

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EEEK!! Time for a bonfire!

I wonder if flea spray would kill the beetles before they get chance to lay eggs in anything else? We had some rather potent stuff, think it was Johnsons, came in a big pink can, we had to use a load of it on my Nan's house (and ours for good measure!) when her cat got infested. I also used it in my workshop when it got infested with cellar spiders, not seen another since! And I know I have some TV's that did have woodworm in the past, but since treatment with standard woodworm killer (not water based crap) I've not seen any more activity.

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Hi the TV cabinet part is getting remade as the amount of wood worm holes on it will be like the Channel Tunnel underneath the surface kind regards Bob
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Ronseal Woodworm Treatment is available from a DIY store near you but it's not cheap
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You really need to use the spirit-based stuff on old plywood. Water-based stuff applied in sufficient quantity to penetrate deeply could cause swelling and delamination.
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That's a great photo David but I would say look at it in perspective perhaps? I'm not sure if it's such a great problem overall but what do I know Lloyd are the Cellar Spiders a particular threat? They eat flies and don't frequent food waste which I always assumed was a great advantage to humans. I'm sure that the TV Restoration project will be a great success and I can see why infestation is such a major factor when restoring/preserving a vintage set but is it usually always great problem overall, I really don't know? Is it like a cellulose cancer ie that it may always return or perhaps sometimes exaggerated in the opinion of those of you who do carry out such expert work? I'm sure that all possible steps are taken.

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Woodworm is only a problem if the moisture content in the wood is over 18% - which is fairly damp. Seasoned hard wood is usually 10% or lower.

But if a radio cabinet is stored in a barn or garden shed for a few years, the moisture content can go up and encourage woodworm (which is actually the larval stage of a small beetle).

And they tend to go for damp softwoods rather than hardwoods. But a long term infestation can reduce a piece of wood to the point of crumbling to dust.

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That is exactly what happened to an old oak dresser I had stored in a shed, the oak was untouched but the softwood drawer sides and bottoms were like Cadburys Flake.

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What a great picture! I have a few old tellies that have had an attack, they have been treated and I keep an eye on them. For some reason it is usually the ply base that is affected . Once treated I flood the holes with PVA glue. As yet I haven't seen a reoccurrence.
The worst set ever was a "Top Rank" branded A640 which was turning to dust, the cabinet was barely strong enough to hold the tube. The worm had followed the layers of board probably eating the glue so the whole lot was delaminating and crumbling. I needed a 23" tube for another set so it didn't die in vain!

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Spiders might even eat woodworms.
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Wonder how many people are checking their collection after seeing this thread
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I retrieved this old TV from a worm infested (well it must have been) attic room to save it from a waiting skip in the yard below and the back and bottom of the cabinet was riddled with woodworm. You can actually see the dust blowing from the holes in the last picture. Amazingly there wasn't a single hole in any part of the varnished part of the cabinet!
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I soaked the cabinet by literally pouring the woodworm fluid into the cabinet like it was a pond and it was running out from every joint and crevice. This was a couple of years ago and I haven't noticed a return - yet!
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