Radio ID required - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

radiozero · 17th Nov 2021, 7:53 pm

Hi. Can anyone ID this radio for me. Maybe someone is familiar with the look of it, the dial might give it away. Thank you. Rich

Silicon · 18th Nov 2021, 5:27 pm

It appears to have Stagshaw on the dial so it may be prewar.

A rear view of the chassis would be helpful.

paulsherwin · 18th Nov 2021, 6:50 pm

I agree, probably late 30s by the tuning scale, though it may be immediately postwar. What are the valves?

radiozero · 18th Nov 2021, 8:35 pm

I attach a picture of the top of the chassis and a date found on the speaker. Cannot make it out though. And speaker is not absolutely known to be the original. Valve line-up (markings on valves) : 6K8G (Brimar), 6K7G (Brimar), 6Q7G (Brimar), 6F6G "Amerty Mullard", 5Z4G / CV1863 (Gov. mark) and the magic eye 6U5 (Tungstram) Not sure if the valve line up says something. EDIT: I include it's original setting. Is this a "console" set?

Graham G3ZVT · 18th Nov 2021, 8:50 pm

Is the smoothing can dated?

radiozero · 18th Nov 2021, 9:14 pm

The smoothing can has been replaced with a radio-spares one. I attach a shot of the underneath. In the LW section of the dial I see "Aircraft".

Herald1360 · 18th Nov 2021, 10:52 pm

Well it is a console set.

Otherwise it's hiding its identity quite well! The 6F6G isn't a common valve in UK models, the 6V6G was far more popular and used less heater current.

The 6k8g 6k7g 6q7g 6v6g 5z4g lineup was used quite widely, but none listed in Radiomuseum match your chassis.

Maybe it's an obscure "Department Store" set?

radiozero · 19th Nov 2021, 9:18 am

Lewises was a department store located in Leeds in the county where I live. Wonder if Lewises had it made.

kipper9904 · 15th Jan 2022, 10:10 am

Barker 88 maybe?

Station X · 15th Jan 2022, 10:39 am

Looks likely:-

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/barker_88.html

It's a pity we don't have picture of the front.

Paul_RK · 15th Jan 2022, 12:58 pm

Trawler band is a fairly unusual feature, otherwise it looks typical of 1938-45 (not much development of domestic sets during WWII, and more than a few post-war models were released with pre-war station names) department store or rental sets.

Paul

newlite4 · 15th Jan 2022, 4:05 pm

It looks rather like an Armstrong chassis, albeit a basic model, from about 1938.
Neil

G6Tanuki · 15th Jan 2022, 4:38 pm

The capacitors in the dull metal cans look very much to me to be Sprague ones of US manufacture - many of these were on the surplus market in the immediate post WWII period and were used extensively in radios made up until the early 1950 s.

It doesn't have enough valves to be a Barker 88, my guess is that it is something made up by one of the many post WWII small businesses that sprung up back then.

ms660 · 15th Jan 2022, 4:58 pm

I would also go Armstrong, look at the position of the rear valve WRT the IFT's in the ones in the links below and compare to the OP's photo, definitely a family relationship there:

https://worldradiohistory.com/hd2/ID...22armstrong%22

https://worldradiohistory.com/hd2/ID...22armstrong%22

This one might be a reverse image?:

https://worldradiohistory.com/hd2/ID...22armstrong%22

Lawrence.

17th Nov 2021, 7:53 pm	#1
radiozero Hexode Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 444	Radio ID required Hi. Can anyone ID this radio for me. Maybe someone is familiar with the look of it, the dial might give it away. Thank you. Rich Attached Thumbnails

18th Nov 2021, 5:27 pm	#2
Silicon Nonode Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Coulsdon, London, UK. Posts: 2,163	Re: Radio ID required It appears to have Stagshaw on the dial so it may be prewar. A rear view of the chassis would be helpful.

18th Nov 2021, 6:50 pm	#3
paulsherwin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 27,944	Re: Radio ID required I agree, probably late 30s by the tuning scale, though it may be immediately postwar. What are the valves?

18th Nov 2021, 8:35 pm	#4
radiozero Hexode Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 444	Re: Radio ID required I attach a picture of the top of the chassis and a date found on the speaker. Cannot make it out though. And speaker is not absolutely known to be the original. Valve line-up (markings on valves) : 6K8G (Brimar), 6K7G (Brimar), 6Q7G (Brimar), 6F6G "Amerty Mullard", 5Z4G / CV1863 (Gov. mark) and the magic eye 6U5 (Tungstram) Not sure if the valve line up says something. EDIT: I include it's original setting. Is this a "console" set? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by radiozero; 18th Nov 2021 at 8:58 pm.

18th Nov 2021, 8:50 pm	#5
Graham G3ZVT Dekatron Join Date: May 2010 Location: Greater Manchester, UK. Posts: 18,713	Re: Radio ID required Is the smoothing can dated? __________________ -- Graham. G3ZVT

18th Nov 2021, 9:14 pm	#6
radiozero Hexode Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 444	Re: Radio ID required The smoothing can has been replaced with a radio-spares one. I attach a shot of the underneath. In the LW section of the dial I see "Aircraft". Attached Thumbnails Last edited by radiozero; 18th Nov 2021 at 9:20 pm.

18th Nov 2021, 10:52 pm	#7
Herald1360 Dekatron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leominster, Herefordshire, UK. Posts: 16,535	Re: Radio ID required Well it is a console set. Otherwise it's hiding its identity quite well! The 6F6G isn't a common valve in UK models, the 6V6G was far more popular and used less heater current. The 6k8g 6k7g 6q7g 6v6g 5z4g lineup was used quite widely, but none listed in Radiomuseum match your chassis. Maybe it's an obscure "Department Store" set? __________________ ....__________ ....\|____\|\|__\|__\_____ .=.\| _---\__\|__\|_---_\|. .........O..Chris....O

19th Nov 2021, 9:18 am	#8
radiozero Hexode Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 444	Re: Radio ID required Lewises was a department store located in Leeds in the county where I live. Wonder if Lewises had it made.

15th Jan 2022, 10:10 am	#9
kipper9904 Diode Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Nacton, East Suffolk, UK. Posts: 2	Re: Radio ID required Barker 88 maybe?

15th Jan 2022, 10:39 am	#10
Station X Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK. Posts: 21,288	Re: Radio ID required Looks likely:- https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/barker_88.html It's a pity we don't have picture of the front. __________________ Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.

15th Jan 2022, 12:58 pm	#11
Paul_RK Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Fakenham, Norfolk, UK. Posts: 4,255	Re: Radio ID required Trawler band is a fairly unusual feature, otherwise it looks typical of 1938-45 (not much development of domestic sets during WWII, and more than a few post-war models were released with pre-war station names) department store or rental sets. Paul

15th Jan 2022, 4:05 pm	#12
newlite4 Octode Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bath, Somerset, UK. Posts: 1,805	Re: Radio ID required It looks rather like an Armstrong chassis, albeit a basic model, from about 1938. Neil __________________ preserving the recent past, for the distant future.

15th Jan 2022, 4:38 pm	#13
G6Tanuki Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 13,998	Re: Radio ID required The capacitors in the dull metal cans look very much to me to be Sprague ones of US manufacture - many of these were on the surplus market in the immediate post WWII period and were used extensively in radios made up until the early 1950 s. It doesn't have enough valves to be a Barker 88, my guess is that it is something made up by one of the many post WWII small businesses that sprung up back then. __________________ I'm the Operator of my Pocket Calculator. -Kraftwerk.

15th Jan 2022, 4:58 pm	#14
ms660 Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cornwall, UK. Posts: 13,454	Re: Radio ID required I would also go Armstrong, look at the position of the rear valve WRT the IFT's in the ones in the links below and compare to the OP's photo, definitely a family relationship there: https://worldradiohistory.com/hd2/ID...22armstrong%22 https://worldradiohistory.com/hd2/ID...22armstrong%22 This one might be a reverse image?: https://worldradiohistory.com/hd2/ID...22armstrong%22 Lawrence. Last edited by ms660; 15th Jan 2022 at 5:12 pm. Reason: link added