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Old 30th Jul 2007, 7:13 pm   #21
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That would explain the magazine-like format with things chopped up into bite-sized articles and series' of articles spread through the four volumes.

Mine have no adverts and I'm sure were sold as a set of books, probably some time after the series finished.

In total there are 1544 pages in the four volumes.
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Old 31st Jul 2007, 5:14 pm   #22
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Five-volume set here:
1: Pre-1953 radios, Ambassador to K.B.
2: Pre-1953 radios, McCarthy to Vidor.
3: Pre-1953 TV, Alba to K.B.
4: Pre-1953 TV, McMichael to White-Ibbotson
5: 1953-54.
Annual volumes thereafter, starting with 1955-1956, continuous to 1974-1975.

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In addition to those already stated, I have volumes 2-4 of this set, but I'm missing volume 1 (and volume 5, which is presumably not identical to volume 4 of my other set).

If I'm not careful, I could find myself trying to build up a collection of the different variants It would, however, be nice to have a set that ties in with the Cumulative Index.
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...volume 5, which is presumably not identical to volume 4 of my other set...
Well., maybe it is and maybe it isn't Except of course for the volume number. My Volume V runs to 655 pages: as, I note, does Paul Stenning's 53-54 volume. There's a Television Service Areas map on page 6, another map on page 8 showing the BBC's first nine VHF radio stations, and coverage of Recent Developments extends to page 36 with a list of included radio manufacturers/brands following on page 37. If all these are the same I expect you have essentially the same book. Probably

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Last page number on my 1953-54 volume is 640, but ties up with the rest of your description, so I expect that the preamble is the same but there has been some pruning in the service data.

Here are the contents pages from my volume:
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Ah, then it seems that most of the difference is in the indexes at the back: though the contents pages you give are differently arranged in my volume, in single rather than double columns and with the Radio page starting the Radio data section (p.37) and the TV one beginning the TV section (p.251). I hope that's clearer than mud! The Vidor TV section starts in my volume as in yours on page 629, and in mine it ends on p. 636. Page 637 then announces the two indexes: a general one for the volume, occupying pages 639-645, and an Index to Models covering the full five volumes of the set, on pages 646-655. So I suspect that when it comes to actual data absolutely nothing has been changed between my volume and yours, including the pagination, but for the possibility of some small corrections.

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In my set the indexes are still in volume 5, which is the following volume (1955-56).

On this basis I would have no practical gain in acquiring the "volume 5" version of 1953-54.
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I have the six volume maroon bound set all by E. Molloy and W.F. Poole, published by George Newnes Limited, and printed by Richard Clay of Bungay.
Vol I Radio Data (Pre-1953 Models)
Vol II Television Data (Pre-1953 Models)
Vol III Radio and Television Servicing 1953-54 Models
Vol IV Radio and Television Servicing 1955-56 Models
Vol V Radio and Television Servicing 1956-57 Models
Vol VI Radio and Television Servicing 1957-58 Models

They have all been printed at the same time, as the first volume refers to the others in the preface.
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Here's my contribution:

A seven volume set by E. Molloy, J.P. Hawker and W.F. Poole. Published by George Newnes Ltd. All have serial No. 78159 opposite page to Preface. :-

I. Radio - Bush to Vidor. pp.560.
II. Television - Alba to White-Ibbotson. pp.560.
III. Radio (1953-54) - Ambassador to Vidor, Television (1953-54) - Ace to Vidor. pp.544.
IV. Radio (1955-56) - Ace to Vidor, Television (1955-56) - Alba to Vidor. pp.584.
V. Radio (1956-57) - Ambassador to Webcor, Television (1956-57) - Alba to Vidor. pp.624.
VI. Radio (1957-58) - Alba to Vidor, Television (1957-58) - Alba to Ultra. pp.639.
VII. Radio (1958-59) - Alba to Walter, Television (1958-59) - Alba to Ultra. pp.672.

Two odd volumes by E. Molloy and W.F. Poole. Published by George Newnes Ltd. :-

III. Section 5 (a). Television - Philips to Invicta (obviously not in alphabetical order). pp.496.
IV. Section 5 (b). Television - Marconiphone to Philco (again, not in alphabetical order). pp.496.

Individual volumes published by George Newnes Ltd. :-

1957-58. Radio - Alba to Vidor, Television - Alba to Ultra. By E. Molloy and W.F. Poole. pp.640. plus some fold-out pages at the back.

1961-62. Radio - Alba to Ultra, Television - Argosy to Ultra. By J.P.Hawker. pp.656.

Individual volumes published by Pergamon Press Ltd. :-

1965-66. Radio - Alba to Ultra, Television - Alba to Thorn. By J.P. Hawker and J. Reddihough. pp.496. LCCC no. 66-19459. 5(R)867.

1966-67. Radio - Alba to Ultra, Television - Alba to Ultra. By J. Harris, C.M. Ferrier and R.N. Wainwright. pp.494. LCCC no. 66-19459. 8267/598(R).

A single volume published by George Newnes Ltd. :-

Television Engineers' Servicing Manual. Pye to White-Ibbotson (not in alphabetical order). By E. Molloy and W.F. Poole. pp.654. Published 1952.

I think that's them all!

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It looks like so far the following VOLUME sets have been identified. The year given is for the newest model covered, which may or may not be the year of publication.

1952?? 2 Volumes.
1953
1954 5 Volumes.
1955
1956
1957 6 Volumes.
1958 7 Volumes.
1959 7 Volumes.
1960 6 Volumes.

Anyone disagree? Was there a VOLUME set published every year? Can anyone fill in the gaps?

The 1952 set was pretty thin at two volumes. Did it actually contain service sheets or was it a how to do it guide?
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Old 2nd Aug 2007, 12:07 pm   #30
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The 1952 set was pretty thin at two volumes. Did it actually contain service sheets or was it a how to do it guide?
Hi Graham,

The Television Engineers' Servicing Manual from 1952 is exactly the same format as the later combined volumes, the page size is a little smaller though.

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The 1952 set was pretty thin at two volumes. Did it actually contain service sheets or was it a how to do it guide?
As you can see from the attached indexes, there are both service data and general sections.
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I have:
R&TVS E. Molloy/W.E. Poole Volume 3 Part 1 and Volume 4 part 2
Both have maroon covers and 496 pages each.

Neither has any date reference although Volume 3 has five transmitter coverage maps so it must be post '52.

Volume 3 covers Philips to Invicta
Volume 4 covers Ambassador to Vidor

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