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AC/HL · 23rd Apr 2019, 3:59 pm

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m0cemdave · 13th Jul 2019, 1:44 pm

from:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-48954974

Quote:

The R34 airship made the first ever return flight across the Atlantic in 1919, with its crew hailed as heroes.

On its return to the UK, the airship was unexpectedly redirected to Pulham in Norfolk, landing on 13 July.
....

"It was in the news, it was on the radio - people all around the world would have heard of Pulham."

End quote

emeritus · 13th Jul 2019, 11:43 pm

No doubt heard on a radio like the one in the first post of this thread! Possibly they meant to say "It was seen in the cinema", given that Pathé filmed the return.

Andrew2 · 18th Nov 2019, 2:18 pm

Oh dear, the first episode of War of the Worlds featured yet another gramophone with the pickup playing the wrong side of the record.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...es-1-episode-1

About 28:35 in.

PaulR · 18th Nov 2019, 4:02 pm

Yes I noticed that. A repro gramophone as well I think

Mike-repairman · 18th Nov 2019, 5:08 pm

As it's grinding away the tracks I wonder if it it's a little louder.
Makes me scream when I see it but wife it getting used to it now LOL.

paulsherwin · 18th Nov 2019, 6:25 pm

I saw that too. I can't believe nobody on the production team knew how a gramophone should be used, but I suspect it wasn't actually playing anything (the sound would have been added in post production).

Mike-repairman · 18th Nov 2019, 6:31 pm

You're probably right Paul, but I doubt any of those in production were born when gramophones were in use. When I was a lad that's all there was; showing my age.

Junk Box Nick · 18th Nov 2019, 7:23 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulsherwin

I can't believe nobody on the production team knew how a gramophone should be used

The media is largely a young person's industry.

PaulR · 18th Nov 2019, 7:41 pm

Nevertheless it seems sort of intuitive that the needle should follow the direction of the record, not bite into it. As Paul says you would think that there would be someone on the technical team who would understand that.

merlinmaxwell · 18th Nov 2019, 8:58 pm

Common sense isn't taught anymore*, it's all paperwork to prove you have attended a training course.

*You only get that by living and playing!

PaulR · 18th Nov 2019, 9:05 pm

I think that most people on here can see how something works just by examining it. It is difficult to understand those who cannot to this but there are clearly many!

Junk Box Nick · 18th Nov 2019, 9:53 pm

Most of my working life has been in an environment where the majority of my colleagues are non-technical and, sadly, I can vouch for PaulR's second sentence.

The most depressing/annoying aspect of it the pride some folk take in their ignorance. This is frequently to demonstrate some sort of superiority of status - code for "I don't need to know such things".

merlinmaxwell · 18th Nov 2019, 11:05 pm

I don't think I am going too off topic with this tale/observation.

I used to frequent a (fairly rough) bikers pub on a Saturday afternoons reading my latest Wireless World just picked up from town. Comments like "oh, that's a bit sad" got the repost of "well you have a video, tv, (portable) 'phone etc. if it wasn't for people like me..." soon put them right.

paulsherwin · 19th Nov 2019, 10:52 am

Back on topic now please.

PaulR · 19th Nov 2019, 11:32 am

I find it odd that so much care is clearly taken with period detail in these productions. Edwardian Woking looked just as I imagine it would have done but there is such a blind spot over technology.

I have just bought some DVDs of the early Foyle's War series. So much of the detail is correct, even to having cars that were first registered before the war when very similar cars were built after the war, but there were several clearly post war radios shown and even a plastic battery wall clock. Maybe I am just sad and should just enjoy the programme as my wife says!

Richard_FM · 19th Nov 2019, 1:54 pm

In one of the post war Foyles Dad dad spotted a Routemaster bus over a decade before it would have been in service. Especially as there are several of the earlier Regents in preservation which have been used in productions.

He also called out a bus in Call The Midwife which would have been out of service for a few years by the time it was set.

ms660 · 19th Nov 2019, 1:58 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulR

I find it odd that so much care is clearly taken with period detail in these productions. Edwardian Woking looked just as I imagine it would have done

Yes, not bad for a Cheshire village.

Lawrence.

The Philpott · 19th Nov 2019, 9:40 pm

....In BBC 'World on Fire', does anyone know why they chose to depict a Junkers 52 Trimotor dropping an SOE agent behind enemy lines...? It seems peculiar in a production where so much attention to detail was taken. (Did the UK have any Ju52/3m stashed away from before the war?)

For ease of framing and continuity the Ju87 Stukas were shown as glide bombers rather than dive bombers, but that aside the CGI action was done really well.

Dave

Richard_FM · 19th Nov 2019, 11:44 pm

It's a shame they didn't use a Westland Lysander, especially as at least one has been preserved with the SOE delivery features.

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m0cemdave Heptode Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bletchley, Buckinghamshire, UK. Posts: 927	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-48954974 Quote: The R34 airship made the first ever return flight across the Atlantic in 1919, with its crew hailed as heroes. On its return to the UK, the airship was unexpectedly redirected to Pulham in Norfolk, landing on 13 July. .... "It was in the news, it was on the radio - people all around the world would have heard of Pulham." End quote

13th Jul 2019, 11:43 pm	#303
emeritus Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brentwood, Essex, UK. Posts: 4,033	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. No doubt heard on a radio like the one in the first post of this thread! Possibly they meant to say "It was seen in the cinema", given that Pathé filmed the return.

18th Nov 2019, 2:18 pm	#304
Andrew2 Octode Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Dukinfield, Cheshire, UK. Posts: 1,692	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. Oh dear, the first episode of War of the Worlds featured yet another gramophone with the pickup playing the wrong side of the record. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...es-1-episode-1 About 28:35 in. __________________ Andy G1HBE.

18th Nov 2019, 4:02 pm	#305
PaulR Nonode Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southport Lancashire, UK. Posts: 2,398	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. Yes I noticed that. A repro gramophone as well I think __________________ Paul

18th Nov 2019, 5:08 pm	#306
Mike-repairman Heptode Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cambridgeshire, UK. Posts: 606	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. As it's grinding away the tracks I wonder if it it's a little louder. Makes me scream when I see it but wife it getting used to it now LOL.

18th Nov 2019, 6:25 pm	#307
paulsherwin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 20,926	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. I saw that too. I can't believe nobody on the production team knew how a gramophone should be used, but I suspect it wasn't actually playing anything (the sound would have been added in post production).

18th Nov 2019, 6:31 pm	#308
Mike-repairman Heptode Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cambridgeshire, UK. Posts: 606	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. You're probably right Paul, but I doubt any of those in production were born when gramophones were in use. When I was a lad that's all there was; showing my age.

18th Nov 2019, 7:41 pm	#310
PaulR Nonode Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southport Lancashire, UK. Posts: 2,398	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. Nevertheless it seems sort of intuitive that the needle should follow the direction of the record, not bite into it. As Paul says you would think that there would be someone on the technical team who would understand that. __________________ Paul

18th Nov 2019, 8:58 pm	#311
merlinmaxwell Dekatron Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maidenhead, Berkshire, UK. Posts: 10,131	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. Common sense isn't taught anymore, it's all paperwork to prove you have attended a training course. You only get that by living and playing! __________________ Cats have staff, it's dogs that have owners.

18th Nov 2019, 9:05 pm	#312
PaulR Nonode Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southport Lancashire, UK. Posts: 2,398	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. I think that most people on here can see how something works just by examining it. It is difficult to understand those who cannot to this but there are clearly many! __________________ Paul

18th Nov 2019, 9:53 pm	#313
Junk Box Nick Octode Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: West Midlands, UK. Posts: 1,137	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. Most of my working life has been in an environment where the majority of my colleagues are non-technical and, sadly, I can vouch for PaulR's second sentence. The most depressing/annoying aspect of it the pride some folk take in their ignorance. This is frequently to demonstrate some sort of superiority of status - code for "I don't need to know such things".

18th Nov 2019, 11:05 pm	#314
merlinmaxwell Dekatron Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maidenhead, Berkshire, UK. Posts: 10,131	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. I don't think I am going too off topic with this tale/observation. I used to frequent a (fairly rough) bikers pub on a Saturday afternoons reading my latest Wireless World just picked up from town. Comments like "oh, that's a bit sad" got the repost of "well you have a video, tv, (portable) 'phone etc. if it wasn't for people like me..." soon put them right. __________________ Cats have staff, it's dogs that have owners.

19th Nov 2019, 10:52 am	#315
paulsherwin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 20,926	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. Back on topic now please.

19th Nov 2019, 11:32 am	#316
PaulR Nonode Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southport Lancashire, UK. Posts: 2,398	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. I find it odd that so much care is clearly taken with period detail in these productions. Edwardian Woking looked just as I imagine it would have done but there is such a blind spot over technology. I have just bought some DVDs of the early Foyle's War series. So much of the detail is correct, even to having cars that were first registered before the war when very similar cars were built after the war, but there were several clearly post war radios shown and even a plastic battery wall clock. Maybe I am just sad and should just enjoy the programme as my wife says! __________________ Paul

19th Nov 2019, 1:54 pm	#317
Richard_FM Octode Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Stockport, Cheshire, UK. Posts: 1,410	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. In one of the post war Foyles Dad dad spotted a Routemaster bus over a decade before it would have been in service. Especially as there are several of the earlier Regents in preservation which have been used in productions. He also called out a bus in Call The Midwife which would have been out of service for a few years by the time it was set. __________________ Hello IT: Have you Tried Turning It Off & On Again?

19th Nov 2019, 9:40 pm	#319
The Philpott Nonode Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Colchester, Essex, UK. Posts: 2,470	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. ....In BBC 'World on Fire', does anyone know why they chose to depict a Junkers 52 Trimotor dropping an SOE agent behind enemy lines...? It seems peculiar in a production where so much attention to detail was taken. (Did the UK have any Ju52/3m stashed away from before the war?) For ease of framing and continuity the Ju87 Stukas were shown as glide bombers rather than dive bombers, but that aside the CGI action was done really well. Dave

19th Nov 2019, 11:44 pm	#320
Richard_FM Octode Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Stockport, Cheshire, UK. Posts: 1,410	Re: Technology related anachronisms on TV and in films etc. It's a shame they didn't use a Westland Lysander, especially as at least one has been preserved with the SOE delivery features. __________________ Hello IT: Have you Tried Turning It Off & On Again?