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24th Mar 2023, 2:45 pm | #1 |
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Austria: Philips` history of the VCR!
Hi folks,
Here is an austrian film about the history of Philips and their story about the evolution of VCRs (language is german): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EzljEacCp0 Happy weekend, German Dalek
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26th Mar 2023, 9:54 pm | #2 |
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Re: Austria: Philips` history of the VCR!
Great material, thanks for posting!
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27th Mar 2023, 10:27 am | #3 |
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Re: Austria: Philips` history of the VCR!
I too thought that the video is well worth watching yet, from memory, on my visit to the Philips Museum in Eindhoven the Video 2000 development and launch was missing.
The engineering and assembly of the video 2000 though does illustrate how Sony and Philips both approached the technical challenges being the first on the market with a business product re designed for the domestic market. The YouTube video's "The death of Europe's last electronic giant" and "How Philips nearly went bankrupt," are timely reminders of how easy it is to get it wrong and most importantly, the need to be agile and not to "dig your heels in" wasting billions of shareholders or public money. Chris |
27th Mar 2023, 12:10 pm | #4 | |
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That's what marketing and market research is all about. It's not a little 'add on', an afterthought to address accepted protocol, and it's not about a group of high level directors sitting in a boardroom deciding the future of home electronics. Eight well healed executives do NOT constitute a thought process anything like that of the general public. The moral to the tale being never underestimate the buying public, always perform carefully designed market research before embarking on a manufacturing route. And in any case, the quality of VHS improved greatly as tape manufacturers caught up with what was needed from the machine makers. Gordon Bussey told me that Philips, having lost the V2000 battle were then committed to building the best VHS machine on the market. I don't know whether they did that, probably not.
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27th Mar 2023, 6:49 pm | #5 |
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Best VHS machine on the market?, nope, they didn't even come close, that accolade must surely be claimed by Panasonic with their highly engineered machines, although the fragility of their G deck did leave quite a stain on their reputation with many engineers!.
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27th Mar 2023, 6:58 pm | #6 |
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Certainly the first generation C wrap Philips machines suffered with lots of mechanical problems due to the cheap flimsy plastic deck. Early models were so prone to failure that larger Philips dealers were offered replacement second gen machines as one for one replacements. Philips didn't even want the faulty machines back! Cwrap? They should have omitted the 'W' that would have been a better description!
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27th Mar 2023, 7:15 pm | #7 | |
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27th Mar 2023, 7:58 pm | #8 | |
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Though this definitely wasn't the first generation VHS deck from Philips. That was the Echo deck (a traditional M loader) which was introduced in 1984 and was quite well constructed. Probably with VCC compatibilty still in mind (instead of ending production by january 1985, it was planned to seek European cooperation and build a large modular video factory that could produce both VCC and VHS machines on the same production lines - obviously nothing came of it: Grundig continued on their own until 1993 and Thomson sought out Toshiba as a partner). The "best VHS recorder available" was sort of true when they introduced their first Echo based machines in 1984. They had one touch autotracking and relatively advanced controls for other functions, as to soften the blow a little bit for people who were used to "no tracking knob at all". Last edited by Maarten; 27th Mar 2023 at 8:08 pm. |
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27th Mar 2023, 8:12 pm | #9 |
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Re: Austria: Philips` history of the VCR!
Even the Echo deck was partially derived from an earlier VCC deck, albeit without the rubber Idler as that VCC deck had separate reel drive motors but it had a lot of similarities to the later deck, in regards to the M format lacing and the main cam also the pinch roller assembly to the later VHS Echo deck
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