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Old 5th May 2020, 2:56 pm   #21
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Don't give them to a museum because in a few years they will all be skipped or ebayed
Is somewhat disingenuous towards the many conscientious people in museums who spend their working lives safeguarding their collections and working within stringent policies of what they can and cannot do. In an accredited museum, indeed any properly-run museum, varying the disposal policy requires quite compelling reasons; it is not done haphazardly without investigating the alternatives. Non-accessioned items do get disposed of, but these are often items that have been forced on the museum against their wishes and in a way incompatible with their collecting policy.

Items have different values to different people, and it is not always valid to convert everything into a monetary value. One of my sub-collections can never be complete because someone broke up the known final example of a particular model, claiming it was of no value as-is. I never revealed what I would have offered for it, had I known before it was scrapped. On the other hand, when you are spending 2/3 of your income on premises and bills to get the project going, the last thing you want is someone holding you to ransom for 200 for a service manual, knowing that the other known surviving copy was just binned deliberately by a fellow enthusiast (I say this from experience).

Given that we now have the benefit of a wide and deep-reaching communication platform with which to match artefacts up with potential future owners, I do not think the future is as bleak as you paint it.
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Old 5th May 2020, 3:52 pm   #22
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There is no monetary value in old technology. Even an Anita Mk8 is 700 is you are lucky,
That's quite an improvement on the 1 I paid for mine, at an auction circa 1990.

Main thing with any accumulation of vintage electronics is to make sure as a minimum that it gets put into an auction, pretty much any auction. Buyers will find it, some money will be made, most of the items will get to rattle around the planet for a while longer and be treated however the denizens of the future care to treat them. I'll be puzzling over what provisions to make for a (non-technical) book collection here, where the need will be to call in a dealer capable of distinguishing titles that regularly sell for three-figure sums from those the local auction room tries and often fails to flog off several tea-chests full at a time, but radios and suchlike don't go unrecognised these days and I'm surprised how something like the going rate is raised for them even at the smallest of local auctions.

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Old 5th May 2020, 4:21 pm   #23
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As Josh Ward says, there are also a number of local heritage museums which may take in radio equipment which is significant to the local area.
A couple of years ago, I did just that. One radio, a 1950's Woodie Marconi I think, came from a deceased old retired local primary school teacher, and it had a wee brass plaque noting it as a retirement present. The other was the last Murphy radio worked on by "Bill Smith"( of "Bill Smith Chronicles") when he was a radio & TV engineer at a local shop.

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Old 5th May 2020, 4:55 pm   #24
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A common dilemma. The legendary Steve Harris had a Museum in Chester but now operates [just his business] from an Industrial Estate. He wrote an article about what a disillusioning experience the Museum Project was. By the time he'd met all the regulations, the amount he could display was greatly reduced! Forum members may have read about the failure of a citizens group to maintain control of Hastings Pier. They blamed all and sundry but I pointed out that [like Museums as said on here ] you need a forward plan, business structure and an income stream. When I asked who had been responsible for that, there was a ringing silence! I'd think twice before getting into that "solution" Kestrel, especially in your circumstances and the current economic climate It's akin to a retirement project that people have always intended to do. Many open a short lived business. The banks never lose out!

Related-When the Ally Pally Society asked for help from the BBC a Senior manager said somewhat dismissively-"We Don't Do Museums!" This was when the one they had [in Broadcasting House] shut down after a few years. I think they got their stock for that project from Steve.

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Old 5th May 2020, 4:56 pm   #25
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Having been laid-low with the Coronavirus for the last week, I've had similar thoughts - largely of the "If this virus sees me off, I pity the people doing the house-clearance" kind.

I've got only a few items - a PRC320, this-century Yaesu HF/VHF transceivers, Diamond power-supplies, a Bird wattmeter - that would find an easy market, The rest is mainly "accumulated tat" of little future value [maybe the AR88 and the RA217D would be sellable-on but the world just doesn't want Barker-88s, Pye P75s or the like].
I've also got loads of components/bits-and-pieces which would undoubtedly cost more to identify/list/auction than they would ever raise.

I don't want my inheritors to have much hassle, so I've already started a cull - the wheelie-bin to be collected tomorrow is stuffed full of old VGA/SCART leads, PS/2 keyboards/mice/KVM-switches, and about 20 jam-jars/margarine-tubs containing screws-with-chewed-up-heads, knobs-with-stripped-grubstrew-threads, short potentiometer-spindle offcuts, old pots, strange little brackets from who-knows-what, old X/Y capacitors (some new-old-stock, but I don't trust them!) and the like.

I've also started on my tools, and have two bucket-fulls of blunt tin-snips, pliers/side-cutters with slack, wobbly pivots or visible notches on the cutting-surfaces, dozens of non-VDE-rated screwdrivers with damaged tips, and about half a kilogram of blunt twist-drills/old chuck-keys. Add in old soldering-iron bits, new bits for long-since-replaced soldering-irons and a big box containing a dozen 10,000-packs of rusty staples, and you can see I've made a good start.

More will come - I may offer some of it to other forum members, but it'll be in 'big lots' like "1Kg of variable capacitors" beczuse I just want rid of the stuff.
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Old 5th May 2020, 5:19 pm   #26
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The Black Country Museum in Dudley have a 'Radio Shop' in their streets there. I would think they would like at least some stuff, it would lighten your load as and when you wanted or needed to part with some. The shop, 'Griptons' can be seen at the link below.

https://www.bclm.co.uk/locations/gri...m#.XrGRbBNKhs8
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Old 5th May 2020, 5:25 pm   #27
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My suggestion is don't bother and don't lose any sleep about 'after'.
I agree with you. My main concern is that I don't want my executers, family members who live a long way away, to have to sort through and dispose of loads of "junk". I have some valuable items, but their monetary value pales into insignificance when compared to the overall value of my estate. My junk level has been increased with stuff from my father's estate, none of which is of great value.

That's why I plan to sell or give away as much stuff as possible during my life time. I've made a very small list of what I plan to keep until my demise.
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Old 5th May 2020, 6:04 pm   #28
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My main concern is that I don't want my executers, family members who live a long way away, to have to sort through and dispose of loads of "junk".
Or carry the guilt of not doing so, as they won't have a clue where to start. Little of mine has much value to anyone except me, it can continue on it's interrupted journey to recycling!
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Old 5th May 2020, 8:15 pm   #29
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I think one of the best resources for rehoming wireless collections and associated stuff is the community here. Offer anything free and it goes like a shot! I suppose a lot depends on who is left to do the sorting, and their time and inclination. Items of real value, identify and they are likely to get sold. BVWS auctions can take a lot, depending on their availability. Otherwise a garage sale advertised here. If things are not of great value, even a giveaway. That encourages fellow enthusiasts, shifts almost everything, and is quick and painless. When I look at my own stuff, I see a lot of things of little value, such as signal generators and old scopes, which I simply like. There will be others who feel the same way. The main thing is, nothing is wasted.
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Old 5th May 2020, 9:53 pm   #30
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I am not greatly concerned about what happens to my very modest collection of radio equipment. However, I am not happy about my collection of tools. I have a sense that "tools are part of the man". I'm talking about a fair amount of radio and electrical stuff, a good deal of motoring stuff and the gardening stuff. The thought that much of this could end up at car boot sales appals me . I'd really like to take it with me, on a great big Viking long boat, sailing into the setting Sun.

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Old 5th May 2020, 10:36 pm   #31
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Thank you again, friends, for these very helpful replies and suggestions. Clearly, the museum idea will be a non-starter; it would be impossible to make it pay its own way, even with volunteer staff. But there are plenty of leads to follow up which I will do over the next couple of weeks. I've started making an inventory - this may take a while, though I do try to store items at least in labelled boxes!
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I am not greatly concerned about what happens to my very modest collection of radio equipment. However, I am not happy about my collection of tools. I have a sense that "tools are part of the man". I'm talking about a fair amount of radio and electrical stuff, a good deal of motoring stuff and the gardening stuff. The thought that much of this could end up at car boot sales appals me . I'd really like to take it with me, on a great big Viking long boat, sailing into the setting Sun.
Lumbered with the largest and last remaining of my father's fossil collection, I got the undertaker to pop it in the grave along with my mother. Couldn't think of anywhere else to put it.

The thought that some future archeologist/paleontologist might be confused for a few seconds by finding prehistoric remains amongst 20th century human was slightly amusing.
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Old 6th May 2020, 1:50 pm   #33
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Lumbered with the largest and last remaining of my father's fossil collection, I got the undertaker to pop it in the grave along with my mother. Couldn't think of anywhere else to put it.

The thought that some future archeologist/paleontologist might be confused for a few seconds by finding prehistoric remains amongst 20th century human was slightly amusing.
Now there's a thought. Maybe we should all be buried with our collections of "stuff" to see us off happily into any afterlife, like Saxon kings. In 1000 years' time visiting alien archaeologists, studying what's left of this planet, would formulate all sorts of interesting theories as to what it was all about...
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Old 6th May 2020, 4:54 pm   #34
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Hi!

One thing I feel that should be preserved, even if not necessarily in paper form, is equipment service manuals!

The Original Manufacturer still had to employ specialist staff to write and design diagrams and layouts, and when digitised into Electronic form, should always be done to the very best quality when an original paper item is available, and most Members on here do this – Member "Pinorkel's" (Denis) efforts in reclaiming a tatty unreadable TQ D755 manual is a case in point – he deserves the highest praise for his hard work!

I can draw "Newnes Quality" circuit diagrams from almost anything I can identify, which is another way of preserving poor quality original data!

As to the comment about "being held to ransom for the only copy of a manual", the best insurance to that nonsense is to upload it to k04BB, BAMA and Elektrotanya!

If I can afford to buy a rare manual, then I would scan/upload it for free as a service to others, seller's watermarks or not!

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Old 8th May 2020, 1:58 am   #35
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I don't want my inheritors to have much hassle, so I've already started a cull - the wheelie-bin to be collected tomorrow is stuffed full of old ... PS/2 keyboards/mice/KVM-switches
I hope it was all rubbish stuff and not mechanical/hybrid switch keyboards. I've got a fondness for mitsumi KPQ type, at the very least the rubber sleeves are a great upgrade for amigas.

A running theme is the idea of something being either viewed as worthless or impossible to shift, getting scrapped or chucked out, meanwhile the one person on earth looking for one is unaware, skint or too far away to get it.

I think there's only one cure for that, better documentation of what we own and better communication between all us geeks. There should be some national matchmaking service for situations like these, with perhaps also a black ops team for rescuing stuff from "recycling centres" as tips like to call themselves now.
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Old 8th May 2020, 9:40 am   #36
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Less criticism for my comments than expected, thanks.

Yes, this forum and similar for other hobbies works well. But that still raises the problem of packing and postage costs. I have packed and posted all sorts of stuff all around the world, it is not easy. Need a room full of cardboard boxes, double wall, and bubble wrap plus a large table to do the work on. Then there is the weight.

Never throw metal away, take it to the scrappy even if you get nothing for it. Cables with the connectors cut off is copper, 1 kg, clean aluminium is 450 tonne etc. Gold is now $1700 toz to AWA in Harlow.

But what to do with components? Toroidal transformers? ICs? Transistors? At least valves seem to have a current value, impressed with the wanted thread for a transmitting valve.

My criticism of museums is personal experience.
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A museum does need diligent trustees. The Marconi Museum at Baddow was only saved from being sold at auction because one of the trustees delved into the records and showed that the bulk of the most valuable items (including the "Titanic" memorabila) had been the personal property of Marconi himself, not the Marconi company, and so were not the company's to sell.

An engineer who had worked at the old GEC Osram factory at Hammersmith told me that after manufacture of lamps ended, its large collection of historical lamps was simply dumped.
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Old 8th May 2020, 1:13 pm   #38
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I must admit, I'm vaguely perturbed at a 'not bothered' attitude regarding what happens to a collection once the owner has passed. The collection, no matter how small or large represents the love and care bestowed upon it by the late collector and deserves to be 'dispersed' in an appropriate manner, not a skip, the tip, whatever. Furthermore, they're not building vintage radios, TVs, & hifis anymore so on that score alone they need to be responsibly re-homed. Whether or not the late collector leaves more detailed instructions in that respect or simply places the onus on one caring, responsible person to do so properly is only right and correct in my book. No collection should be dispersed in a manner that is likely to result in sets going to places where they're not wanted, not cared for or even junked. Just my opinion.
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Old 8th May 2020, 1:33 pm   #39
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Unfortunately I've seen "a caring and responsible person" steal everything of value from a deceased's estate, telling the widow it was junk.

I lost count of the number of fellow model engineers whom my father "promised" valuable stuff to, including models worth thousands of pounds.. If it wasn't in his will they didn't get it

The best person to dispose of your collection is you and that means doing it during your lifetime if possible.
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I am in the fortunate position in that the executor of my estate is a long-standing and trustworthy friend, who is a licensed amateur of many years. He is also an ex bank employee who knows what is the realiatic worth of that which is worth saving.
We agree that not many people outside of the vintage radio fraternity know or care much for old radios or T.V.s Therefore the majority will end up being "disposed" of, but the worthwhile stuff will be given a second chance, being offered for sale. (Proceeds to charity along with the rest of the estate).
Re Baz4CQJ (post# 30) : Heavier tools and some garden equipment will be welcome here. https://www.twam.uk/donatetools A worthwhile cause in my opinion. Tony.
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