28th Aug 2019, 1:15 pm | #981 |
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The more insidious thing about the Phantoms is not their cost, or relative sound quality, but that they are not repairable! The 'buy it then send it to landfill' model has moved distinctly upmarket from the usual supermarket TVs etc. Devialet offer an extended warranty where your faulty unit will be swapped for a good one if you're on the scheme, otherwise landfill.
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28th Aug 2019, 1:53 pm | #982 |
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At least in the high-end speaker market most of the competition is no less repairable now than it ever was. So if repairability is an issue for customers they have plenty of alternatives to choose from (that said, fixing an aluminium-wired voicecoil was never easy, and finding a surround with exactly the same compliance as the original, but now perished, one could be a challenge too).
While we're trying to pick holes in the Phantom I should also mention that it depends on a good deal of digital technology and associated software, often being controlled via a phone app. I have heard reports that, like all software, the Phantom's can have its flaky moments, and when they happen no-one knows why. You could try the software 'engineer's' usual approach of switching them off and switching them back on again, of course. Cheers, GJ
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Extreme Mystery Feet
http://marigoaudio.com/isolation-feet/mystery-feet/ The extreme mystery is the price |
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I see their interconnect cables are also quite a price.
One innovation which hasn't seemed to happen in the high-end cable industry is making cables with audible signatures dedicated to certain connections EG CD to preamp, preamp to power amp, turntable to preamp etc. They would have to be more expensive of course in order to pay for specially selected materials and the research needed to optimise them. Much better to use a specific purpose cable than any old general purpose one just sold by the metre as if nothing else mattered. David
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As for the price, everyone knows most of the time, price is synonymous with quality and performance, after all, how could they be as wonderful and outstanding as they say they are, if they cost the same as a serving of fish & chips. This is why advertising is now known as "perception management". Bravo to the marketing engineers. Imagine under-pricing the Emperor's New Clothes, what a silly mistake that would have been. |
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18th Sep 2019, 7:51 am | #986 |
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Here's another one bandying around the word "quantum".
https://telos-audio.com.tw/quantum-noise-resonator/ Perhaps they are uncertain whether it works or not. Or it works or doesn't with equal probability. It is only when you open it that the wavefunction collapses and you realise it is bovine ordure. Craig |
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That is cutting edge stuff. It looks like a rotating pattern of LEDs is used to symbolise the noise being resonated! This reduces the strain on the purchaser's imagination.
The wording of the brochure suggests that English isn't their primary language, which is perfectly OK. The content makes it obvious that science isn't their primary subject, which is hilarious. David
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Craig and David, that's very funny Did you notice the quantum noise reducer (edit - sorry, resonator - what remains of my inner engineer must have subconsciously attempted to imagine that this thing has a rational purpose) uses a branded fuse? I wonder how much they are...
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If you have to ask the price, you aren't gullible enough!
Let no quantum of noise remain unresonated! To infinitesimal and beyond! David
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Its amazing that they can get more than 100 out of a scale of 100:
"They mentioned the upgrade is like 300%~500% improvement. We even have customer said that the upgrade range, Is like adding USD30,000 audio tuning accessories to the system". No doubt they have a unique poly-dimensional system which transcends the limitations of conventional mathematics, which has always stifled and constricted conventional audio designers. |
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It's a shame it only begins to work from 1kHz up …
The UK mains supply being rated at 50Hz, those LED's inside the box would've been useful as a strobe for my record player, though I'm guessing they wouldn't trigger at 50Hz(?) … pity really. Mind you, they must have a gadget for strobe monitoring, calibrated I'll wager. Looking at those 'Mystery Feet', if I were to stand on an isolation platform, complete with 'Mystery Feet', would my own voice have better definition, clarity and separation, whilst deliberate feeble mumblings would simply turn into authoritative annunciations? It's all wave shaping, sorry, no, I mean, quantum reso-nonsense restructuring, giving the openness and feeling of space that only a stupidly long spring in a reverb box and an empty wallet can hope to match. Mark
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David/Alan, just think of the possibilities.
Dedicated cables for source/destination and, oh how about different cables for different music genres and moods? You could do real scientific research too, normal lead in one channel, fancy new cable in t'other. How about a dedicated storage system for the interconnects, in alpha/numeric/signature order? With gold plated hinges & lead-lined glass, all standing on magic feet to match the system. The sign in front of the company telephone number should also denote the local currency, and away we go Mark
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I am marvelling at the Tuning Dots:
http://marigoaudio.com/tuning-dots/ This is truly Innovational Engineering™
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Yeah - I saw the Tuning Dots. And almost immediately thought of the infamous Peter Belt, RIP.
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OK - the Quantum Noise Resonator. He's had it CE approved, the test house he used exists and the certificate appears genuine. So he plans to sell in Europe.
The UK dealer is selling them at £1090 https://www.audiocomav.co.uk/173-power-conditioners . |