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5th Jan 2017, 6:50 pm | #1 |
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Tea urn/samovar
Can anybody tell me anything about this tea urn or samovar? I got it very cheaply at a car boot sale, it has a modern looking flex and 13 amp plug looks as it may have been used fairly recently; however, it does not have a switch or seem to have a thermostat.
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5th Jan 2017, 9:09 pm | #2 |
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Re: Tea urn/samovar
It might not be vintage at all.
This sort of style of electric samovar is currently available from Russia, but by no means cheaply, so it sounds as though you got a bargain anyway! |
5th Jan 2017, 9:23 pm | #3 |
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Re: Tea urn/samovar
Looks modern to me. It's missing the teapot which sits in the top.
Many of these have a two core mains flex. As for lack of a thermostat you turn it off when it starts steaming. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Russian-El...25.m3641.l6368
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6th Jan 2017, 12:04 am | #4 |
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Re: Tea urn/samovar
Looks like a prime candidate for an added earth lead or an RCD plug!
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6th Jan 2017, 10:38 am | #5 |
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Re: Tea urn/samovar
Thank you all for your help.
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6th Jan 2017, 3:43 pm | #6 |
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Re: Tea urn/samovar
Yes, agree that a 3 core flex and/or an RCD would be a prudent addition.
These items have been made to the same basic design for decades and dating any particular example would be challenging. They normally have a much lower loading than a UK style electric kettle, and are intended to be used differently. A modern kettle is filled with cold water, boils rapidly, and is used to prepare hot drinks when it boils. A samovar is intended to be left on for long periods with the water being used as needed and topped up with cold. In eastern Europe many premises had no or very few power outlets and samovars were often of low enough loading to be used from a lighting circuit. Generally mains voltage of course, but I have seen a 32 volt, 10 amp samovar said to be intended for use on a train. |
6th Jan 2017, 4:34 pm | #7 |
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Re: Tea urn/samovar
Hello,
These samovars seem quite commom mostly made in from 1960s onwards. Could we see a picture of the underside as the date, voltage and wattage etc. is normally stamped on the baseplate? Yours, Richard |
6th Jan 2017, 4:34 pm | #8 |
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Re: Tea urn/samovar
I have a BTH catalogue of 1906 which show a 3 pint "Tea & Coffee Percolator" of similar appearance. It is rated at 500W and said to be safe to run from a lighting circuit. It was recommended to fill it with boiling water, when percolation would start in 4 minutes. It was not stated how long it would take with a cold water fill!
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7th Jan 2017, 6:34 pm | #9 |
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Re: Tea urn/samovar
This is a photo of the bottom plate of the Tea urn/samovar, looks like Russian script.
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7th Jan 2017, 7:50 pm | #10 |
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Re: Tea urn/samovar
Guessing a bit here, but on the left you have some letters followed by '2 L' (the L is in Cyrillic) which might be capacity in litres. Underneath, 17R50K might be 17 roubles 50 kopecs - after all, in the command economy RRP is RRP!
On the right, it looks like a date of manufacture (1965), and underneath we see 220v ac. Under that I'm guessing at electrical power of 720w (for a 220v supply) but I'm not familiar with the letters used to denote electrical power in Russian. cheers Mark |
8th Jan 2017, 10:16 am | #11 |
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Re: Tea urn/samovar
Many thanks for your help.
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8th Jan 2017, 10:12 pm | #12 |
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Re: Tea urn/samovar
Hello,
I think Mark is corrrect in his interpretation of the information on the base. emk. is an abreviation for the Russian word for capacity and the u with a tail is the first letter of the Russian word for price. The TY (Y=oo in Russian) is an abreviation for Tula the Russian city well known for making samovars. At the top is the logo of the manufacturing plant (Z SH V in English) and the following quote gives the information " зшв = Initials translated as “ZSHV” is the official “stamp” (logo/emblem) of the Tula Engineering Plant–Boris Vannikov". Yours, Richard |