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26th May 2017, 2:13 am | #1 |
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AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
If you're here to answer me, you probably know what I'm going to ask.
There are no Level calibration pots inside the deck at all. Or did I miss them? I am trying to adjust the record level because the left channel is lower than the right even at 0VU, down by about half. Got the service manual from hifiengine and no luck. Even the manual has nothing written about Amplifier Adjustment. It only tells you how to verify the correct functionality, like where to put your multimeter probes to check that the bias is right Lol. There are no pots like I said inside the deck or maybe I missed them. Any advice? |
26th May 2017, 7:53 am | #2 |
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Re: AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
I don't think there's any adjustment for this but you could trace the signal to the meter and see if there's any faulty component or whether the meter itself is faulty. I assume you only have problem with the meter and the signal itself is ok?
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26th May 2017, 11:09 am | #3 |
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Re: AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
Nope. The meter is good. Levels are both equal during playback. Even a -3db 250hz tape playing shows -3 with the volume pots at the same position. The record inputs are also equal with both the volume the pots at the same position. Just the recording is dipped on the left channel. I am poor at looking through circuits as this was something I was well at say 3-5 years ago. I can link a schematic if that helps
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26th May 2017, 8:44 pm | #4 |
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Re: AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
It will have an automatic level control. Possible faults could originate with the record switch, bad contacts, and the electronics for the record amp. Check the voltages around the transistors shown on the diagram with the parts connected to record.
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26th May 2017, 10:30 pm | #5 |
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Re: AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
On a machine of that age, I would replace C1, 2, 5, 7 and 8 ,
and measure each to see see if it had dried out. New capacitors are low in price. If you owned an oscillator and a wide range AC voltmeter, you could measure the preamp gain. A modern DVM wont do, unless it has frequency response flat from 20 Hz to over 20 kHz.
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Re: AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
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27th May 2017, 2:58 am | #7 |
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Re: AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
Timtape,
Backtension - checked tape to head contact - checked Azimuth - Checked Degauss - Checked 250hz - 1000hz - checked - equal on both channels as per VU Radiotechnician - Capacitors you mentioned - only those in the left channel that's low - replaced The pair of transistors in left preamp replaced So far - minor but noticeable difference. Record level on left is still significantly low. |
27th May 2017, 10:35 am | #8 |
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Re: AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
Have you checked the bias for both channels?
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31st May 2017, 9:14 am | #9 |
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Re: AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
Take a peek at the two hum buckers L1 and L2. Are the 20 turn coils
damaged, or shorted ? If the assumption is made that something is amiss with the head itself, it can be confirmed by swapping the head connection leads, at the head. Then see if the problem moves to the other channel. Do not change the bias for this test. That said, very careful soldering must be done. As an Akai tech, when those machines were current, if we suspected this, we would just try a new head, since spares were at hand. (Philips (El 3434A) were a bit different. Signals to the head were picked off at a current sensing resistor (100 ohms )which was part of the machine design. This permitted more precise calibration.)
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31st May 2017, 8:54 pm | #10 |
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Re: AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
Gotcha. flipped the head wires and same thing. the left of the head was connected to the right and the right to the left. This time the recording on the right had dipped. The head is the culprit. Its a model P4-150 . Hit a dead end. No idea where to get a replacement. OR. I could just find the resistor that feeds into the record for the left channel and reduce it's value to just record at a higher level, but, from the schematic, it looks like the amp is being used as the record circuit.
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1st Jun 2017, 6:24 am | #11 |
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Re: AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
We had a supplier of generic heads, and adapter kits. The company was called
Nortronics. They might be still out there in some form. http://lcweb2.loc.gov/master/mbrs/re...ifications.pdf
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1st Jun 2017, 12:11 pm | #12 |
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Re: AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
The only reason a tape head normally loses its highs on playback is:
1. poor tape to head contact ( more correctly tape to head gap contact) 2. the gap has opened out (short black vertical line) and the head must be replaced. Usually the gap hasnt opened out and it's poor contact (1) Again are you sure the left track pole piece is clean as a whistle and the tape is sitting intimately on the left (upper) gap without obstruction? Usually we can only check these things in a strong light and with the aid of magnification. The machines needs to be laid on its back of course. |
2nd Jun 2017, 10:08 pm | #13 |
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Re: AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
Timtape, you missed the point boss,
It hasnt lost highs. It is a low record level on the left may I reiterate. The audio Eq is perfect both low to high. The playback level is normal on both channels . just a low record lavel on the left. Please go through the posts over again. |
3rd Jun 2017, 3:33 am | #14 |
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Re: AKAI 1722W/L R2R Play/ Rec Level Calibration
My mistake, apologies. Hope you find the cause of the level discrepancy.
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