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Old 9th Jan 2017, 9:41 am   #1
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Default Illuminated Energy Drink Point of Sale Display

I have been given a point of sale item for an energy drink. It's a can of the drink mounted in a bent metal stand. The can has a thick plastic around it, with a connection leading to an inverter, and back from there to a standard plug.

Inevitably, it's not working, although the inverter makes a good hum when it's switched on.

Does anyone know please what technology this is likely to be? Is it some sort of wrap-around LCD perhaps?

Any hints would be welcomed. Many thanks.

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Richard

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Old 9th Jan 2017, 9:54 am   #2
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Maybe an electroluminescent panel?
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 9:54 am   #3
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As always a picture is worth a thousand words!

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Old 9th Jan 2017, 12:43 pm   #4
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Picture of inverter, and of can and its wrap.

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Old 9th Jan 2017, 12:57 pm   #5
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I think Nick has it.

The current stuff is a bit like this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A5-size-EL...5rPKGejRCd4qzg

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Old 9th Jan 2017, 1:15 pm   #6
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Thank-you both. Will do some digging as to how to repair it. I imagine it's most likely a short, as the gap between the two wires must be awfully narrow, as the wrap is very thin.
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 2:22 pm   #7
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Have managed to locate and repair the connections problem, and now have the electroluminescent panel working. However, the AC/DC adapter that I'd need to run it, with the inverter, from a normal socket, is cooked.

So, does anyone have please an AC/DC adapter:
- input AC100-240v 50/60 Hz
- output DC12v 200 mA
- round pin outlet with external diameter of 6mm?

Very many thanks.

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Old 9th Jan 2017, 2:30 pm   #8
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12V DC @ >0.2A should be very easy to source. But connectors vary tremendously.

Could you hack the connector off the old adaptor? Or fit a new connector to the inverter? Or make a hard wired connection between the two?

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Old 9th Jan 2017, 2:32 pm   #9
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A suitable adaptor should be widely available, remembering that 12 volts DC is one of the most popular voltages, and that the 200ma rating of the existing unit should be regarded as a minimum, larger is fine.
Many such DC adaptors come with a selection of output connection plugs, hopefully including the one that you need.

Presuming UK use, then you do not need the wide input voltage range of the original, 230/240 volts will be fine.
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Thanks both - I've put a wanted post in the relevant section of the forum, as these things tend to lie around in corners once the items they once powered have long gone west. Will otherwise pick up something suitable online.
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Hi Richard, I think you should look deeper at the outlet connector.

A photo or three here might help.

As Nick advises, 'connectors vary tremendously'.
It is not just the outside diameter involved.
There a number of choices for the other contact.
e.g Pin size (if present)

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Old 9th Jan 2017, 3:29 pm   #12
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This is the cooked adapter that I am looking to replace.

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Those are very cheap and cheerful

Easiest to cut off the lead from the defective adaptor, and the plug from the replacement, and wire the two together with solder and heatshrink sleeving, ensuring correct polarity.

You will be able to find a suitable PSU at most car boots or charity shops for much less than the postage would be if I were to send you one from my scrap box.

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Old 9th Jan 2017, 6:34 pm   #14
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A PSU from a wireless router might work, the newer Technicolor boxes use 12V 1A power supplies which would be fine. Also whilst it is not much of a problem if using a switching (lightweight) power supply if you have a power supply that has a high current rating (i.e. 2A+) it might 'sing' a bit due to the low loading which may be annoying,.
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 7:24 am   #15
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Thanks for all the help. I think I've found a suitable adapter for a couple of quid. Will update again when it's arrived and, hopefully, I have the thing working.

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