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Old 30th Dec 2016, 9:10 pm   #1
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Default Tape Riter Cartridge Recorder

I can not find information about this tape recorder. Does anyone know anything? Possibly scheme?
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 9:28 pm   #2
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Default Re: Tape Riter Cartridge Recorder

See:

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=32872

http://www.madeinshrewsbury.co.uk/co...tley_taperiter

http://collection.sciencemuseum.org....tation-machine

Essentially, a "dictaphone" type machine, some seemingly having been used to record air-to-ground comms.

"Hartley" were one of the less-well-recorded companies that did a hell of a lot of 'interesting' electronics in the post-WWII era.

http://www.thevalvepage.com/testeq/hartley/13a/13a.htm

http://shropshire.gov.uk/news/2014/0...m-art-gallery/
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Old 31st Dec 2016, 8:01 pm   #3
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This is a general description of the manufacturer. Is there something special about this voice recorder - technical data, manuals?
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My understanding is that this was a development in 1951 of the Canadian Permascribe of 1949 (one was recently on e-Bay) made by Richie of Montreal and later Sonograph which Bill Hartley encountered on his world-wide business travels... but are these Hartley-built ones are the same as imported 'Tape-riters' of that time is another matter.

It was improved in 1953 for microphone control to assist in dictation and was then further developed for a centralised telephone dictating pool.. but how many Hartley made is not clear.

As with most office-based recording equipment little information is now available.

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Old 1st Jan 2017, 3:23 pm   #5
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Hartley did intend replacing these with Garrard 'bichette' cartridge decks, but it appears they were concerned about the long term production of them. Hartley is of course covered in my 'Guide to British tape-recorders', fifth edition due soon...
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Old 3rd Jan 2017, 7:55 pm   #6
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I found this:

"Building on knowledge it had gained with other manufacturers the company developed a tape cassette system THE TAPE RITER. The system used full size reels in a metal case that could be lifted off the tape recorder that had recorded the work and placed on another machine and played by a typist who would transcribe the tape.

Was this the first tape cassette system?

The Tape Riter certainly predates the Phillips system by at least 7 years. See the image below.

Mike Smith from Hertfordshire has donated a Tape Riter to the Made in Shrewsbury collection.

The company had several contracts to supply the Ministry of Defence with electrical and electronic equipment including Tape Recorders and other Naval equipment."
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 11:45 am   #7
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This concept of a small spool recorder dates back to the 1930s with steel/wire recorders. The Germans did develop a small magnetic tape recorder during the early war years; this concept was more than likely 'captured' by the allies as war reparations and may well have been put into production as the Canadian or the American Permascribe - if the Moderators will permit, there is Permoflux-Scribe circa 1953 on e-Bay (UK) by which you can compare with the near identical Tape-Riter.

As to a military connection, these were only ever dictating machines for office use. Nothing more. The Philips Compact Cassette and open reel cartridge recorders are two entirely different concepts.

Hartley had several military contracts and produced some unique recorders as well as contracting for the later TRD based Tape-Riter (see Brenelltape.co.uk); they also took over Baird and may well have been responsible for the little known Baird TRS/1 scientific recorder... we don't know!
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Old 15th Jan 2017, 7:53 pm   #8
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I found something. And it does not have information, but the question is who copied from whom.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vtg-Gold-P...oAAOSw2xRYVXhJ
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 11:51 am   #9
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Suffice to say the concept is taken from the Germans as the Americans, despite Semi Begun now being in the USA, had little real commercial interest in magnetic tape until the end of the war, for they were mainly interested in wire.

If it is a 'war reparation' design then is academic who was 'first' - the Canadians or Americans! That machine is the one I refer to above and appears to date from around 1953 - it had little 'military' use.
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