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6th Sep 2017, 1:05 pm | #21 |
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Re: New hard drive for Pentium IV
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6th Sep 2017, 7:37 pm | #22 |
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Re: New hard drive for Pentium IV
That looks like the SFF version of the ones Unrealdave was selling.
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Re: New hard drive for Pentium IV
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6th Sep 2017, 11:02 pm | #24 |
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Re: New hard drive for Pentium IV
If it's any consolation I've got an 8000 here running Windows 10 fine (the kids' PC). And two 8100s (wife and file server). I thought they were all 8100's. I can barely tell the difference.
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7th Sep 2017, 10:23 am | #25 | |
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Some were AMD some were Intel it didn't seem to make any difference to the type of tasks we use a computer for. It has it's own graphics of course,however you can easily add an up to date graphics card but will need the 'desktop' back plates and if you need both VGA and HDMI etc sockets you will need two slot spaces as VGA is usually a plug in option these days. Last edited by cheerfulcharlie; 7th Sep 2017 at 10:41 am. |
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7th Sep 2017, 11:33 am | #26 |
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Re: New hard drive for Pentium IV
New IDE drives are on Ebay at £9.99 for 160Gb.
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Re: New hard drive for Pentium IV
These will be NOS though, as they haven't been made for a while.
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7th Sep 2017, 1:37 pm | #28 |
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Re: New hard drive for Pentium IV
Scrap Sky+ boxes are a source of 160Gb discs. The HD boxes are bigger, but not IDE.
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7th Sep 2017, 3:57 pm | #29 |
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Thanks Paul,I did not twig NOS.
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7th Sep 2017, 8:35 pm | #32 |
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Re: New hard drive for Pentium IV
Well, less than 24 hours after ordering that PC I now have another!
This morning whilst out looking for something entirely unrelated, I spied a PC tower next to a bottle bank. It seemed intact so I slung it in the car. At home I discovered it is an HP dx5150 (MoBo MS7050 v1.3) fitted with an AMD ATHLON 64 3500+ 2.19Ghz, has 1GB PC3200 DDR400 RAM installed and a 500GB SATA drive! After a thorough declogging of the fans and heat sink, it powered up fine. It is an XP era machine so even though it is newer than my current clunker it is pretty ancient. Still, I will probably whack Win 7 on there with a bit more RAM and keep it as a spare, or source of spares.
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Good find! This is still a P4 era machine, but one of the later examples (it will be from 2006 or 2007). It should run W7 well enough, though you will need to buy a retail version. Why not stick Linux on it and have a play around?
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7th Sep 2017, 9:28 pm | #34 | |
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Maxes out at 4GB, but it came from an era of 32 bit operating systems so it'll be fine. If you want Windows 7 on it, you'd need to find an unused retail packaged copy - there is no other currently available legal path other than open license. It's far older than anything I'd consider using though! |
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8th Sep 2017, 12:04 am | #35 |
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Thanks for the specs, very useful.
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8th Sep 2017, 11:37 am | #36 |
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Re: New hard drive for Pentium IV
The new PC arrived this morning. I have powered it up briefly and it is indeed extremely quiet, booted fine (w10).
Before passing all the data over from old PC to new, I was thinking about putting the 500GB SATA drive from yesterday's find into the new PC as a second drive. That would give me some 750GB to play with, not far off my initial idea of 1TB. There are spare SATA terminals on MoBo and cable. There is, however, limited space inside the new SFF desktop. I think it would fit into the blank bay reserved for floppy drive or card reader - anyone advise on that? The next step would then be to format it and check for errors. I read these PCs have some sort of SMART auto diagnostic. How best do I go about this?
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8th Sep 2017, 11:44 am | #37 |
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Re: New hard drive for Pentium IV
I have one of the SFF units as a file server. There's a 256Gb SSD under the DVD drive and a 2 Tb drive in the floppy bay. I managed to break the SATA connector off the DVD drive so I'm just leaving it in there as a large blanking plate!
I use this to read the SMART data: https://crystalmark.info/software/Cr...o/index-e.html Edit: the above isn't the case actually. . I'm going to open it and have a look quick. One min! |
8th Sep 2017, 11:51 am | #38 |
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Re: New hard drive for Pentium IV
Ok I've taken it to bits quickly. In mine the SSD is underneath the power supply on a mounting bracket (the power supply just levers up) and the 2 TiB disk is underneath the DVD drive.
There is no floppy bay. So many PCs - getting confused! |
8th Sep 2017, 12:04 pm | #39 |
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Re: New hard drive for Pentium IV
You can install an additional drive anywhere it will physically fit. Good airflow is nice but modern drives don't run especially hot.
If you take the drive out of your kerbside find you won't be able to use it for anything other than parts, though I guess you could fit the small disk from your original system - it will be big enough to play around with Linux or whatever. That's assuming the kerbside box has an IDE interface, though it probably does. Rather than swap disks around, you might want to invest in an external 500GB or 1TB USB drive in a caddy. These are extremely convenient and versatile, and can be plugged into different computers as required. The performance is almost as good as an internal drive. |
8th Sep 2017, 12:08 pm | #40 |
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Re: New hard drive for Pentium IV
If the hard drive is the original HP supplied one, then on the disk will be a small sector that deals with general house keeping of the HP computer, because it is hidden it obviously never gets wiped..this should alert you when there are SMART issues etc.
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